This is awesome! Now the IRS just needs to send me my already completed taxes that I just verify, sign, and return, like they do in Sweden.
But... why doesn't anyone think of the millionaires :(
If they are missing something, is it easy to ammend what they send, or do you gotta start from scratch and you can only use that as a reference?
There is no 'scratch', you login and practically everything is filled out. If you want to change or add something, you can do so.
Sounds awesome. Wish we had that.
How does that work for businesses and investments? In the UK I don’t have to do anything for taxes with my job, but if the investments in a rental property, or something like that, are over £4000 I have to do the forms.
They give you something to sign. For the majority of people, they just say "Yeah, sounds about right" and they confirm it.
For people with added complexities, they'll do what they already currently do and add in the details you're talking about. It's literally win-win all around except for the tax soft company CEOs.
There's tax preparation software companies here in Sweden too but almost only businesses use them because most individuals don't need it.
Intuit seems to be worried. Shortly after this story was published, Rick Heineman, the company’s communications VP, emailed The Verge with an aggressive statement calling the IRS’s pilot “redundant” and “half-baked.”
“The Direct File scheme is a solution in search of a problem,” he wrote, adding that it could end up “costing billions of dollars in taxpayer money.”
"Yeah you morons! Don't use the free tools that the govt provides you! Pay us to do it!"
hes literally pointing out the problem with their own product..."redundant","solution in search of problem", "costs taxpayers stupid money".
... dude theres 4 fingers point back at you.
And the last one is flipping him off.
An article from The Verge that reports on the following:
- IRS pilot program: The Internal Revenue Service is testing a new service that allows taxpayers to file their federal taxes directly on the IRS website, without using commercial software like TurboTax or H&R Block. The pilot program is for the 2024 filing season and is limited to people with simple tax situations.
- Free File Alliance controversy: The pilot program comes after the IRS updated its agreement with the Free File Alliance, a partnership between the IRS and tax preparation companies that offered a free alternative to paying for tax preparation. However, the companies were accused of hiding the free option from consumers and misleading them into paying for their services. The FTC sued Intuit, the maker of TurboTax, for false advertising and Intuit agreed to pay $141 million to settle the case. Both Intuit and H&R Block left the Free File Alliance after the IRS changed the terms of the agreement.
- Participating states: The pilot program involves 13 states, four of which will also integrate their state taxes into the pilot. The states are:
- Arizona
- California
- Massachusetts
- New York
- Alaska
- Florida
- New Hampshire
- Nevada
- South Dakota
- Tennessee
- Texas
- Washington
- Wyoming
I'm highly surprised Texas is on that list.
Ditto for TN
Florida is a surprise too.
It's becuase Texas doesn't have state income taxes so there is literally nothing extra they need to do to comply. Same goes for Florida and Tennessee, which commenters also mentioned.
Yeah...these hard right states signing on board is making me wonder if they are doing so just to shit on the program and "have a say" on how it goes.
2024 filing season means this coming year to file 2023 taxes, not when you file your 2024 taxes in 2025, right?
Next year, 2024 Tax Filing Season (2023 Taxes)
Direct File is one more potential option from which qualifying taxpayers will be able to choose to file a 2023 federal tax return during the 2024 filing season.
Yes, 2023 taxes being filed in the "2024 filing season" as the IRS calls it.
Holy shit, some nice news from NH. Seems like it's been a while since we were in the news for anything other than an embarrassment or the election.
Very good news. Tired of giving money to the tax prep vampires. But initial roll out is for simple tax situations (W-2 and deducting student loan interest).
Why can’t this program also apply to selling of stocks/options as well? This information is already furnished to the IRS
In some European countries, paying income tax means that the government sends you a form that is already completely filled out except for your deductions, and you simply verify that it looks good, then you add in whatever deductions you have, and file it.
Because 99% of the work in filing our taxes in America is completely worthless. The government already receives information directly from the same companies who send you all those tax forms. The IRS already knows all the information. Making you input it again is just a way to ensure the maximum number of mistakes.
So the IRS is taking a good first step, but we still have a long way to go to catch up to what people in other countries already have. Instead of making me fill out the forms, and the IRS checks for errors, have the IRS automatically fill out the forms, and I'll check for errors. In a civilized country, this is something that we should already have.
It’s because the tax filing software companies lobby lawmakers to prevent exactly what you described. They want to keep the tax code complicated, so people feel the need to continue buying tax software every year. Seriously, tax software lobbies are some of the largest lobby groups in the country.
And the other half of that is that Republicans want to make paying taxes as difficult as possible so people will support tax cuts
And to take it one step further, republicans want to see governmental agencies seem incompetent and fail, thus set the course for their regulatory capture.
And seemingly right out of a super villain movie to further the above, is Project 2025:
Established in 2022, the project seeks to recruit thousands to come to Washington, D.C., to replace existing employees to restructure the Executive Branch of the federal government as to further the agenda and policies of Donald Trump. The plan would perform a quick takeover of the entire U.S. federal government under a maximalist version of the unitary executive theory – a theory proposing the president of the United States have absolute power of the executive branch – upon inauguration.
Scary times. To quote David Frum:
If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.
Intuit must be pissed.
Good. They should absolutely just fucking die. The company I mean, not the people. Some of the people should probably go to jail for a long time though.
There was a massive bipartisan (well POTUS and Dems in Congress) push for this in the second half of the Bush Administration. It lost GOP support after the Republican House Caucus turned on Bush for his path to citizenship immigration reform policy. Intuit and its peers have so much money in this and in lobbying.
"According to the IRS, these are the states joining the pilot:
States with state income tax: Arizona, California, Massachusetts, and New York
States without state income tax: Alaska, Florida, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming"
Nice! I just moved out of NY State (NYC) and down to Florida, free filing and no state income tax for me!
Moved from NY to WA a while back... fml it's SO NICE not having state taxes.
That was one of my friend's selling points about moving here lol I'd get raped with taxes in NYC. I would make $110k/year but I'd be lucky if I saw $85k.
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