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[–] alternativeninja 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

This game is a scam at this point. Half a billion dollars and all people have gotten is a glorified tech demo. Yet they continue to sell ships for hundreds of dollars a pop.

I used to be a believer, one of my worst purchases ever.

[–] JackOverlord@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Same.

I wasn't convinced at the very beginning, but once they had the hangar demo out, with that insanely detailed, intractable spaceship, I was so impressed I spend about a hundred dollars on it to "help development".

At this point I've long since given up hope this mess will be finished in a reasonable timeframe. I'm just glad Starfield is coming up and from the trailers and interviews it's looking like a suitable replacement.

And since it's the creation engine again, any major or minor mistakes will have a mod that fixes them sooner or later.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Almost bought it when they posted the first Squadron 42 trailer in... 2019? The one with all those great actors. I thought it was almost ready at that point, at least the story part.

Then I remembered to never preorder anything, when it comes out, it comes out, and if it's good, then great, I'll get it then.

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[–] Thatoneguyyoulove@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wanted Star Citizen to work out so badly. In 2012(ish? I don't remember exactly) when I first heard of the game I backed it because a space game where you weren't just your ship but could move around and board other ships sounded like my perfect space game. Now it looks like Starfield may fill that want perfectly. Who knows though maybe one day in the future Star Citizen will actually release.

[–] Veraxus@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've been playing Star Citizen pretty regularly for years, and still do. While it's not progressing as quickly as I want it to, it's definitely progressing... and so long as their current funding model keeps everyone working, I'm happy with that.

The thing that concerns me about Starfield right now is how little they've shown of flight mechanics. I'm starting to get the feeling that space flight is going to be a half-baked afterthought and atmospheric flight might not be a thing at all. We'll know soon enough, but I am still not going to let myself expect anything more than "Fallout/Elder Scrolls in Space".

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[–] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They rewrote their engine and framework multiple times, this kind of stuff is stupidly complicated to do. I think they originally went with Cryengine, Amazon Lumberyard, and whatever else by now. So yeah, the problem is, they are rewriting everything from scratch multiple times that they fail to make any deliverable. They basically netscape themselves to hell.

[–] hodgepodgehomonculus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lumberyard was just a fork of cryengine, that's not what required a rewrite. They threw away all the FPS work that they hired a company to make for them, and redid that from scratch, and then also just rewrite systems all the time because they have no plan.

[–] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Well honestly, I remember they did mentioned that it require a rewrite on various parts for transition from Cryengine to Lumberyard though it been years.

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[–] Bipta@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

That's a great article.

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[–] Silverhand@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I remember when Star Citizen first started being talked about I was worried I wouldn't be able to run it on my GTX 770 lol. Both that gpu and any desire to play star citizen have been gone for years.

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Star Citizen is a scam plain and simple. It's "stolen" thousands of dollars (probably more) at this point and has nothing to show for it but a very pretty buggy mess.

[–] stephfinitely@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I'm so glad I never spent any money on this game and just got a free ship with my old AMD graphics card.

[–] CynAq@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Someone call Derek Smart here, lol

I was a $20 Kickstarter backer of this complete disaster.

Though, at this point, it's been a decade of absolutely hilarious drama, so I really do feel like I got my money's worth out of it even though I literally have never installed nor played any of the "betas".

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Star Citizen will go down in history as the biggest gaming scam ever.

[–] Finnbarr 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes and no. There's a sort of playable game there. But Chris Roberts is sort of infamous for his feature creep.

So more and more gets added to the game and then parts of the base code have to be rewritten to support the new additions, and then you get a 13 year development cycle with no actual end in sight. I think that the feature creep is currently under control, but with everything that's been planned, it's still going to be a couple of years before the game releases.

I am assuming that it will eventually release... Which is a large assumption at this point.

But until then, you can play a game that feels a bit like a first person shooter, and has some ship to ship combat, and some missions, and some other stuff, but isn't as fleshed out as any of those things could be if the focus was strictly on that one thing. Basically it's too many things at once to be really good at ony one of them.

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[–] SemioticStandard@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Xanvial@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

this is worse than announcement of announcement of teaser trailer

[–] Los@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does anyone realistically expect this game to come out?

[–] setsneedtofeed@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its supporters bounce between “It’s already out!” and “Developing such a huge game takes time.” depending on which stance is more convenient in an argument.

[–] Los@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, I wonder how much time is wasted refactoring with software and hardware that has been invented post the start of their development. Considering how long their development has been.

[–] setsneedtofeed@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, you’re shifting from a fan POV to a developer POV here.

From the developer POV, it’s not wasted time. They are getting a constant stream of money. As long as they can tread water and make their motion look like progress they have an endless source of income.

[–] Los@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And put on a consumer hat next. How about an offical release for people that have funded a game. Be that a 1.0 release with promised features in later updates. Their model at the moment is confusing for anyone outside of they diehard fan base. But why should they care right? As long as their commercials work, that’s what it’s all about.

[–] setsneedtofeed@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh as a consumer I, personally, am not touching this thing with a ten foot pole.

I think the people who do continue to fund this thing are sucked in by the dream of what it could be and have developed a kind of personal ownership of the project in their heads. They are psychologically invested in seeing it succeed and you can’t convince them it’s never going to. And the developers are cynically sucking money out of them like cult leaders.

[–] smolgumball@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think my favorite use of Star Citizen has been from folks like PolarityDnb who use it to create backdrops for ambient electronica compositions.

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[–] followthewhiterabbit@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

All I want is that kinda standalone side 'campaign' which has Mark Hamill involved. How they could make that and sit on it is beyond me!

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[–] patchymoose@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

The development of this game makes construction of a nuclear power plant look timely and cheap.

[–] nii236@lemmy.jtmn.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So it'll be better than all those games combined right?

[–] Seytoux@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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