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[–] Goathound@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Good grief, their community list is absolutely bloated, probably an attempt at powermoderating or domain squatting if I had to guess. It is unfortunate that they're modding LGBTQ+ though, they seem to suffer from a case of "enlightened centrism" and that is pretty harmful given today's climate for trans rights. (For context, the post in question is a single panel comic of a trans person dragging a child into an gender affirming care clinic, basically perpetuating the groomer libel of LGBTQ+ people)

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Centrists spits are conservatives who just don't feel comfortable calling themselves that, and in a country where fascism is already on the rise, they're effectively collaborators.

[–] TiredSpider@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think this is the most likely answer, just another power mod.

I wonder how long it will be before "power mod disorder" gets into the dsm

[–] jcb2016_@mastodon.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@Goathound @Hurts @Izzent Maybe he was over here a long time ago. Went to reddit. Saw all the popular communities and Created all of them. I would signup for another instance, create the community you want. then link everyone. enough people then they will get bigger then the one on lemmy.world instance. Worth a shot

[–] 667@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This is both the upside and downside of Federation!

[–] jcb2016_@mastodon.social 0 points 2 years ago
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[–] jon@lemmy.tf 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

They do seem to be actively posting in a lot of the communities, so maybe it's just someone trying to seed new Lemmies. There's a lot of people that want new communities but also don't want to moderate, so someone like this could be filling an actual gap if they have good intentions.

[–] Hurts@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is correct. I have already passed off ownership of c/conservative, I'm simply just another moderator now. I have also added mods to any of the communities that actually have content (most of them do not without me seeding it). I have not rejected a single request from anyone that reached out to moderate any of the communities (the biggest ones are c/nba, c/nfl, c/baseball, c/pics, and c/news). I was discussing adding someone as a mod on c/news last night before I logged off and one will be up today. I haven't received any requests on c/pics but the volume of posting isn't really unmanageable.

Edit - And anyone wondering WHY I didn't remove posts from the one guy that was posting there, the answer is because I believe the voting system should be allowed to do its thing. All of his posts were heavily downvoted, it shows exactly where the community there or those passing by stood on the posts. I don't believe in overmoderation which Reddit fell victim to and curated those echo chambers by removing content and posts they disagreed with.

Edit 2 - Screenshot of DMs showing discussions with a c/news user that contacted me where I state that I don't want the posts to come from incredibly biased sources

Edit 3 - Grammar

[–] bloopinator@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah people are making so many assumptions about how there is a conflict of interest with moderation in /c/lgbtq while there is literally zero activity in /c/lgbtq. There are so many baseless assumptions being thrown around. People should start posting in /c/lgbtq and if @Hurts proves to be an issue moderating there, he clearly is more than willing to step down as head mod there just like he did at /c/Conservative.

[–] Override@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Because of all the closeted Republicans. Why do you think they constantly talk about Gay and Transpeople all the time ? Its what they are thinking about 24-7

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[–] thesanewriter@vlemmy.net 2 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure. They may be a power mod, trying to grab as many communities as possible, they may be trying to infiltrate one of the communities, or they may be some form of a centrist or conservative queer person. One of the good things here is that the mod logs of these sites are open to the public, so we can keep an eye out for unjustified bannings or iffy behavior from this user and move away from their community if needed.

[–] magiccupcake@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't the the community is actually conservative, but rather critical of conservatives.

[–] Izzent@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Scroll back, you'll see what it was like before a concerted effort to change that happened.

[–] yukichigai@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If you look at the content feed of /c/conservative most of the recent posts seem to be fairly anti-conservative, or at least not very flattering. For example "Almost Twice as Many Republicans Died From COVID Before the Midterms Than Democrats" was just recently posted.

In other words they may be modding both subreddits because they're not actually conservative.

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[–] beard__hunter@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh. This is interesting. Now we need /c/lemmydrama ....

[–] dill@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

grabs popcorn

[–] Pertes@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

@hurts is also a mod for both "Republican" and "Democrat".

[–] exohuman@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can always come to kbin’s LGBT or queer communities and avoid that drama.

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[–] Hurts@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I've defended myself in comment replies but I guess I'll address the post directly as well.

Kind of shitty to wake up and see this and a whole thread shitting on me, when I've done nothing but try to seed and build communities here. Any communities that have gained traction I've gladly accepted new moderators for (see c/nba, c/nfl, c/news, c/baseball), as well as stepped down as the head moderator at c/conservative.

The literal only action I've taken as a moderator at c/conservative before this morning was reapproving comments that were removed for no reason besides disagreeing, and messaging that moderator and telling them that isn't how we will be doing things, which is because I don't intend to ever cultivate an echo chamber. See here to view the message

To automatically assume that I have no LGBTQ+ affiliation or some insidious agenda is nothing short of slanderous and disingenuous. I have already personally stated that I am gay multiple days ago when one of the commentators on c/news attempted to call me out for this. See here for the comment chain.

I have not rejected a single person that has requested to moderate any community that I started/seeded, and have already passed off ownership of one community out of the 5-6 that actually gained a bit of traction. The only thing I'm doing here is attempting to fill this site with content and keep any personal moderator bias' aside whether that is from myself or the people I appoint as moderators within the community. Here is a screenshot of messages I exchanged with a user from c/news yesterday, where I again explicitly state I prefer the posts to come from sources that aren't incredibly biased in either direction.

I have stated in another comment that I am very centrist. I am not passionate towards either of the main US political parties more than the other, and I think that quite frankly makes me more fit than most of the people here to moderate these communities as I won't curate echo chambers.

Starting an entire thread to brigade and witch-hunt someone that is trying to prop this site up and provide content and communities from Reddit to ease the transition is a great way to quickly ruin this site. The fact that an admin at 2am EST intervened on a community because it upset some users for having different views and handpicked a moderator doesn't bode well in my thinking that this site would be any different than Reddit.

[–] cowvin@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Is the right way to link federated magazines just @conservative?

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I'd like to think that it's just an lgbt person who's also conservative (I'm transsexual and on the conservative side myself) but given it's "lgbtq" I kinda have a feeling it's probably a more progressive person who claimed the conservative sub to control it, rather than genuine interest...

[–] Murais@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I'd like to ask a question in good faith here, if that's alright.

If you are trans, why are you supporting American conservatives that platform policies against your health and existence?

I'm not asking as a 'gotcha,' because that lacks a compassionate curiosity. But I'm puzzled because these stances and identities seem incompatible and I'd like to understand better why, to you, they are.

You're under no obligation to answer, but I'm trying something new and pumping the brakes before I shut down curiosity to make a judgment. Whether you'll afford me that or not, is up to you.

[–] rainh@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just curious, why are you assuming they are American?

[–] Murais@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago

I am not assuming they're American. I'm assuming they support American Conservative policy in reference to the instance that is primarily about American Conservatism being discussed. Which is how I asked the question.

I haven't the foggiest clue where this person is from or where they currently live.

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[–] TheGooseIsLoose@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why does the “lgbtq” make you think that?

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The "q" in lgbtq often refers to the q slur, and it's a newer acronym largely used by progressives. conservative lgbt people either stick with the classic lgbt, or in recent years have started using lgb as a way of distancing themselves from the transgender movement.

Not saying it's impossible for conservatives to use lgbtq, but it's rare IMO (speaking as someone on the conservative side in the lgbt community).

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I've got mine so fuck you mentality... I'm a straight male but I support the shit out of everyone as long as they aren't shitting on people and distancing yourself from our Trans brothers and sister is awful and you know it... we are all people in the end and we need love and support...

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[–] voxov7@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

As I said, the q often refers to the slur, which many more conservative minded lgbt people are opposed to. in practice, the use of the acronym just ends up kinda being correlated with particular mindsets/views.

It's not a hard rule or anything just a general tendency I see.

[–] spaceace@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I think you're mistaken.

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[–] Technological_Elite@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I really hope it's in good faith, cause if it is, that may be a slimmer of hope that conservatives can co-exist amongst LGBTQ+. I'm more of a centrist (no, that does not mean I play the both sides are equally bad or I play both sides, get that out of your heads) and I have a few conservative opinions. This does not mean I agree with the extremism of the U.S. conservatives pushing laws and misinformation to opress LGBTQ+ and other minorities. It's sickening.

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