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Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, now deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, made the comments in an 8,000-word article on Russian-Polish relations, saying Moscow now had a "dangerous enemy" in Poland.

Poland, which has backed Ukraine, accuses Russia of trying to destabilise the country with disinformation campaigns and espionage. Moscow has condemned what it sees as Warsaw's hostile stance towards it and Russian interests in Poland.

There was no immediate response to Medvedev's comments from Poland.

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[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol, does all of Russia suffer from short man syndrome? They clearly know that they're just blowing smoke because any attack on Poland would trigger article 5 and get their shit stomped in. They can't even get through Ukraine, what makes them think they can take on even one NATO power, let alone NATO itself?

[-] bedrooms@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Tbf there are non-militarily ways to bring down a country. Like election meddling and so on.

[-] taladar@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Tricky to do in a country that just had one.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago

he didnt even, or even failing to, conquered Ukraine and already threatens Poland? What a stupid Muppet with allusions of grandeur.

[-] 0x815@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and we must not forget that Poland is a Nato member.

[-] AAA@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago

How is it still news what Medvedev saying?

This guy is spewing out the most insane pro-government propaganda ever since he left office, because he knows that he's leaving the building through a window if he ever stops. During his presidency he dared to criticize Russia (and by that the former government, so Putin et al) and took a more western stance.

He's a puppet and will never say anything sane again in his life.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He was a seat warmer put in place while term limits were still a thing and Putin had to bounce between higher offices.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I think the point is to highlight how ridiculous and dangerous Kremlin propaganda targeted at Russians is.

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Well, they now have to say "Putin ally" in the headline to bait you into clicking on the article to find out who it was.
Thankfully the Fediverse allows texts under hyperlink submissions.

[-] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

That’s a fight everyone/no one should want to see. Russia would get absolutely stomped on the ground, but Poland would be staring down the barrel of a missile silo.

Gonna be honest with ya fam, some of the Polish people who have talked about it seem pretty hyped at the idea.

[-] Rin@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

We like to fantasise about wiping the floor with Russians by triggering article 5. However, no one wants to experience the harshness of war.

[-] febra@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Especially nuclear war.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Currently, Poland would murderfuck #Ruzzia before the rest of NATO could get their shoes on.

[-] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Considering America has been ramping up it's presence there since the beginning of the Ukraine war, Poland would not be fighting that battle alone from the start

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 20 points 1 year ago

Couldn't Poland just say:

[-] febra@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Even more wishful thinking on Russia's side. They can barely take on a non-NATO country, Ukraine, yet they dream of somehow attacking Poland.. This is not even hilarious at this point, just sad.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

'We're gonna invade you,' says KGB grandpa, in latest advertisement for NATO membership.

[-] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Just after elections in Poland. Coincidence?

[-] gigachad@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Classic trolling by Medvedev

[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

It's funny how at one time he was the sane alternative to Putin. I wonder what happened

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

I've seen people speculate he's being insane to rule himself out as a possible alternative so that Putin does not kill him. Otherwise if he was a viable alternative, sanctioned oligarchs might decide to off Putin and get Medvedev in to get the sanctions lifted.

[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

That's not a bad hypothesis at all. He really does seem to be much more unhinged than he was during his stint as president when he was pretty milquetoast in comparison, so I can't help but wonder wtf's going on

[-] pfannkuchen_gesicht@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

In an alternate reality? In this one he never was.

[-] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly, he was always just another evil shit.

[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Sure, he's still a Russian politician so some level of "evil" is to be expected, but would you seriously claim he was exactly as unhinged when he was president? Because if you would, either you weren't paying attention then or you're not paying attention now – something's definitely changed, and it's not like I'm the only person who's noticed.

The Guardian brought it up a year ago, and eg. the Harvard Kennedy School's Russia Matters project even has a list outlining how cramatically his views have changed

[-] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

No, no, he never seemed unhinged, but since I live in a places that's somewhat similar I know you just can't treat regime men as men. He doesn't have anything without daddy so he says what daddy says, we could say he's just another mouthpiece

[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

He wasn't nearly as insane when he was president for that short while

[-] Rayspekt@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

When you are in a talk delusional challenge and your opponent is Bedwetjev.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


MOSCOW, Nov 2 (Reuters) - A top ally of President Vladimir Putin warned Poland on Thursday that the NATO member state was now considered a "dangerous enemy" by Russia and could end up losing its statehood if it continued on its current course.

Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, now deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, made the comments in an 8,000-word article on Russian-Polish relations, saying Moscow now had a "dangerous enemy" in Poland.

"History has more than once delivered a merciless verdict to the presumptuous Poles: no matter how ambitious the revanchist plans may be, their collapse could lead to the death of Polish statehood in its entirety."

Poland, which has backed Ukraine, accuses Russia of trying to destabilise the country with disinformation campaigns and espionage.

Moscow has condemned what it sees as Warsaw's hostile stance towards it and Russian interests in Poland.

Diplomats say his views give an indication of thinking at the top levels of the Kremlin elite.


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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Oh yay an authoritarian wants control of Poland. That bodes well

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