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Bit of a tangent here, but if you’re ever looking for experience designers to help out here and there, or to just give something a second set of eyes, I might be able to lend a hand or connect y’all with some bright and chill people.
You probably don’t want me making any PRs, but I know my way around Figma and a user test plan.
I'd love to see you redesign some parts of the Lemmy UI!
In my option, a lot of designing work is still to be done so I'd love to see mockups you can make and your thoughts on design work!
If we could end up with a theme that looks a lot more like https://kbin.social, I'd be so happy. My biggest gripe with Lemmy is all of the white space, and none of the current themes improve that at all. All of the theme options offered by kbin look amazing by comparison, and to my understanding Lemmy theming is done via CSS based on Bootstrap v4, so new theme creation should be straightforward enough.
It's to the point where, when visiting Lemmy instances, I use a custom CSS extension to modify a few properties to make it a bit more palatable to me.
If you guys ever need help creating custom themes to offfer to users I'd be happy to contribute.
Can you post your user style??
But I would very much support having a more compact theme available without a browser extension. I think some tightening up up would make this place look more welcoming. It feels sort of "empty" due to all the white space.
Hey there, sure, currently I'm using this. The border between comments on a comment thread doesn't look the best, but it makes it easier for me to track comment levels so I like it, though there are certain properties I'd like to change but can't.
Either way, I'm using an extension called Amino to apply my CSS changes on a domain-level.
This fixes a lot of the whitespace and borders to make differentiating between posts and comments a little easier, while minimizing white space. I think it looks nice.
EDIT: I've made a few more changes in terms of color.
.container-lg {
max-width: 1600px;
}
.col-md-8 {
max-width: 80%;
flex: 0 0 80%;
}
.col-md-4 {
max-width: 20%;
flex: 0 0 20%;
}
.col-sm-2 {
max-width: 10%;
flex: 0 0 10%;
}
.col-sm-9 {
margin-left: 5px;
max-width: 80%;
flex: 0 0 80%;
}
.post-listing {
border: 1px solid rgba(34,34,34,.125);
border-bottom: 0px;
border-color: #c80000;
padding-top: 10px;
background-color: #fff;
}
hr {
display: none;
}
.border-top {
border-top: 1px solid rgba(34,34,34,.125)!important;
}
.border-light {
border-color: #e4e4e5!important;
}
body {
background-color: #ecf0f1;
}
.navbar {
background-color: #fff;
}
.card {
background-color: #fff;
}
.comments {
padding-left: 5px;
background-color: #fff;
}
thank you I like it! I hate when websites force me to have so much blank space. Like I remember what an improvement it was in 2002 when everyone got into sans serif fonts and padding to their table based layouts and using % widths, but the craft has moved on from those days... For this kind of website I am thinking more of a newspaper and less of a coffee table book.
looks like Amino is only available for chrome and edge. For other ff users I will say I use an addon called Stylus but it might not be the best one; kind of resource hungry on big pages.
Hey so just a heads up, I made a few more changes that I quite like (again, for the red theme, tweak appropriately for the default green theme), so thought I'd just update you.
This changes the main feed quite a bit, adding a bit more of a card-like design to posts, though I have done my best to make sure there isn't too much white-space from this change, I just feel it looks a bit more modern, but again, feel free not to use it :)
It also, and this is my favorite change, changes the title color of any post you've visited, something that I feel is basic but for some reason Lemmy didn't have before. So now any posts you've visited before will be a light-gray color instead. Hope you find some value here.
.container-lg {
max-width: 1600px;
}
.col-md-8 {
max-width: 80%;
flex: 0 0 80%;
}
.col-md-4 {
max-width: 20%;
flex: 0 0 20%;
}
.col-sm-2 {
max-width: 10%;
flex: 0 0 10%;
}
.col-sm-9 {
margin-left: 5px;
max-width: 80%;
flex: 0 0 80%;
}
.post-listing {
border: 1px solid rgba(34,34,34,.125);
/*border-bottom: 0px;*/
border-color: #c80000;
border-radius: 5px;
margin-bottom: 8px;
padding-top: 10px;
background-color: #fff;
transition: all .2s;
box-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #c80000;
}
hr {
display: none;
}
.border-top {
border-top: 1px solid rgba(34,34,34,.125)!important;
}
.border-light {
border-color: #e4e4e5!important;
}
body {
background-color: #ecf0f1;
}
.navbar {
background-color: #fff;
}
.card {
background-color: #fff;
box-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #c80000;
}
.col-12 .card {
box-shadow: none;
}
.comments {
padding-left: 10px;
background-color: #fff;
}
a:visited .d-inline-block {
color:#d6d7d9!important;
}
.my-2 {
margin-bottom: 0px!important;
}
Thank you for sharing! I will try it when i am on desktop.
I actually used your code as base to start to fix some things that bug me the most.. all spacing/positioning the colors are a total mess. So i am interested to see what yours is like. I can tell from looking that yours is more efficient because i do not know what im doing so it is trial and error.
Do you think there is a better place than wherever we are to post? A repo or other code sharing? I think the stylus extension connects to some sort of website but i never investigated it.
Hey so I setup a repo; swap to the default green litely theme, and then test a few of these out, I think they turned out quite well!
https://github.com/HrBingR/Lemmy_CSS/
Please feel free to submit pull requests if you have other colors or ideas you think would look nice. The more the merrier!
Likely need to define some basic rbac controls. They signed up, sure, but don’t receive a “user” role until after approval. Then in the home page, when signed in with no roles assigned, they get a banner saying they’re still pending approval and will not be able to post or comment.
The major concern will be retroactively applying user roles to the existing users.
I'm a fan of this approach. That way, we can return a 200/201 on subsequent registrations for the case where an attacker would query if a user name already exists on an instance. If rejected, remove the account. If accepted, add the user role.
As a workaround you can go into the database and query directly for users with rejected application and email provided. Then write a script to email them. Getting a fix developed, reviewed, merged and deployed will take a few days in the best case. And even longer now because we are busy with lots of things.
I have front end and back end experience but work has me kind of bogged down lately. If nobody has stepped up by Sunday I should be free to start taking a look at it at the very least.
Thanks for posting and writing all this up. I'll take a good look at it if this is a Friday that work tickets decide to slow down.
I wonder if the RES devs might consider working on BES (or LES)?
We can definitely use all the help we can get. Luckily since lemmy and its UI is open source, we can embed all this highly popular functionality directly into lemmy-ui.
I'd love it. I don't hate the UI as it currently is, but I'd definitely appreciate some features, like the hotkeys RES has, or a tighter UI in general, with less padding and space between elements.
To be fair, tweaking the UI is surely in my power and skillset, but UI is surely my least favorite part of development as a whole.
If I remember correctly, RES has basically been limping along in maintenance mode for quite a while now and there's only one or two people left working on it - and only from time to time.
@Gaywallet what if you signed up without an email? I don't think I added an email address until later attempts.
What can we do to reapply with a decent effort?
We do not require an email at signup for many reasons. You do not have to provide one ever. We recommend having an email in case you get locked out of your account, but that's your choice. We are not currently denying applications, so if you are in queue to be denied (there are currently >1000 individuals in this space) you will have to wait for a fix.
There is no reapplying until this is fixed.
@Gaywallet it might not be the best alternative but deleting users who has been declined would at least give people another go at signign up before this is fixed?
Does this issue also explain why I didn’t receive an email to say I was successful and only discovered I was approved by just trying to login just in case or is that a separate issue? Edit: I am a fool. I don’t believe I supplied an email address… I’m off to a great start!
I thought this was a mistake. I filled out an application early on and didn’t fill it out correctly. I expect that account was denied, but I did notice that the user was created the exact second I applied which was weird. I assume the username is now in a limbo state. Seems strange that lemmy would create an account before it’s approved.
There needs to be something to approve or reject, after all. It could have been a separate table but this way is probably better ultimately, modulo current bugs. The same machinery can be used for suspending accounts and other steps in the account lifecycle.
I forget my password to my GitHub account, so ill just reply here. I agree - it is a bit hard to know if youve been accepted or not. I just kept trying to log in once or twice over an hour or so, but I doubt thats feasible especially for the cases of people who get denied and dont know why.
I am not quite certain on the structure of a Lemmy server, but I imagine there's a log of users that you can join to a particular db entry for acceptance status and denial message. Given that you host the server that this is on, I imagine you might be able to append some changes to the login page to access these fields.
My thought is that there can be a small text input added to the bottom of the log in page that you can enter in a username, and have it present the necessary data pertaining to acceptance status. Again, not sure how this would work in Lemmy structure land, but in MVC where Im competent, I would have an endpoint that returns data as json, then ping it with an ajax post request. Id imagine something similar could be done here
What about as part of the sign up process you offer browser notifications instead of after the fact? Decoupling is a good thing versus straight up polling.
as they didn’t write enough in their registration for us to really evaluate if they were a good fit for this instance.
I'm just curious, what do you consider to be "writing enough"? How strict are you with your applications? I'm trying to learn from beehaw for my own instance.
We want them to fit in with our philosophy, so we're looking that they paid attention to our rule, our ethos, and our ambiance. To be clear, we're not making judgements, but if you leave it blank or only talk about federation, we can't be certain that you will vibe with how we moderate and what we're trying to do here.
Cool. Roughly how many % of applications do you deny? I'm starting to wonder if I should be stricter with my applications for the sake of "user quality".
I've found many applications simply fail to answer the questions. I guess this should at least be a minimum requirement.
I think we're approving around half, but I'm not sure if that's kept up today. To share my thoughts on the matter I'm extremely concerned about the possibility of this place moving the direction of echo chambers for a variety of reasons. I'll probably make another philosophy post in the next week or so, but I've been very overextended between this, work, current healthcare issues (I've had 2 surgeries in the last two weeks 😩), stuff for pride month (I'm a leader at my work's pride ERG, moderated a speaker today, speaking for a group next week, gotta help with SF pride, etc), and in general being busy in my social life as well so I haven't really had a ton of time to contribute all my thoughts or put them on paper as I'd like to.
anywhere from 1/3 to 1/2, yeah
Understandable, thanks!
Oh my goodness! Please, please, please look after yourself and your health and wellbeing first and foremost!
It sounds like we're a lot alike, and I burned myself out overextending myself, like you're doing, trying to help others so much for so long...my health issues got worse and now I can't help anyone because I can barely even take care of myself! and it's an awful feeling when previously helping others was my whole thing and reason for living.
This may be unsolicited and TMI, but just wanted to caution you about what could happen. Look after yourself, please! You deserve it! Remember that you can't help and look after others if you don't help and look after yourself. Thank you for everything you've done and are doing already. Hang in there. <3
I greatly appreciate the feedback and I have taken a few steps back this week to ensure I'm not overextending myself. Thank you for looking out for me 🥰💜
That's great to hear -- and well said @Zoop@beehaw.org. Burnout's a huge risk in situations like this, so very glad you're taking care of yourself.
I'm a react dev. I'm happy to contribute in my spare time, probably weekends and smaller issues. I noticed the client is built in inferno, which from a quick look appears to be fairly similar to react, so I'm sure I can be useful. I'll have a look tomorrow, can see a large list of issues so I'm sure I will find something to do.