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As some subreddits continue blackouts to protest Reddit's plans to charge high prices for its API, Reddit has informed the moderators of those subreddits that it has plans to replace resistant moderation teams to keep spaces "open and accessible to users."

Edit, there seems to be conflicting reporting on this issue:

While the company does “respect the community’s right to protest” and pledges that it won’t force communities to reopen, Reddit also suggests there’s no need for that.

Source: https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/15/23762501/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-interview-protests-blackout

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[–] rknuu@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hey everyone we're trying to keep the reddit threads centralized in technology in beehaw. I'm not locking this one because there's a lot of discussion, but consider moving the chat over to https://beehaw.org/post/576904

[–] GadgeteerZA@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, I got the "message" from the Reddit CEO, and decided to pre-empt that, and I spent a few hours today manually deleting each and every post I made in my subreddit. The content is already anyway on my blog, on The Internet Archive, and on the Fediverse. So my subreddit now looks like this (he is welcome to let someone else take it now):

[–] kittywifclaws@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

The least they could do is make it less obvious who they will replace the mods with. I expect this kind of blatant takeover attitude from a place with less legal department. Like twitter.

[–] brie@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As of now, more than 80% of our top 5,000 communities (by DAU) are open

I'm a bit paranoid that this could be a technical truth because the communities still closed have dropped in DAU.

Edit: Checked the blackout tracker, of the ones listed 205 are still closed or restricted, so it's probably an accurate claim, though it seems about half of the participating subreddits are still closed.

[–] Saturdaycat@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hahaha you know before this many people didn't think of reddit as corporate corporate. They scewed themselves and ruined their goodwill

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I have to admit, it has changed the way I think of reddit, both as an entity and as a source of information.

[–] doublejay3000@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the idea that a cabal of mods were going to take things in a good direction was always unsound

[–] Toribor@corndog.uk 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Notoriously mature and level headed mods that spend all day on the internet putting an excessive amount of emotional energy into something most people barely care about... Who could have predicted this?

[–] entropicdrift 1 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Good luck with that! I'm excited to see the fireworks as their brand-new mod teams use their brand-new mod tools right as they go public. Should be quite a show.

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[–] ahriboy@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Reddit is already dead. Old.reddit will be removed soon.

[–] AndrewZabar@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Spez claimed that there are no plans to shut old.reddit down. We’ll see.

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[–] hankg@friendica.myportal.social 1 points 2 years ago

@bird I had a feeling that was going to happen...

[–] ElysiumXII@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Glad I left Reddit tbh, so far Lemmy/the Fediverse seems to be way better.

[–] bouncing@partizle.com 2 points 2 years ago

I'm tempted to say it's better, but, unfortunately, in many ways it's not.

What Reddit had, most of the time, was semi-canonical communities. There was /r/python, /r/linux, /r/privacy, etc. The diaspora of Lemmy is a shadow of all of that. Surely, there are a dozen or so (at least) /c/python communities on Lemmy, but is there a single one that's anywhere near as active as the Reddit one? No. Not so far, at least.

And unfortunately, I can say as an instance admin, the lemmy moderation tools are just flat bad. We had to turn off open registration and enable email verification, not because we would otherwise need it, but the Lemmy moderation tools are 100% reactive and only operate on a 1-by-1 basis. If a spambot signs up 100 fake accounts, I have to go and individually ban each and every one of them. There's no shift+select, ban.

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad to be here, and Lemmy's great, and there's far less toxicity (so far). All I'm saying is, (1) there's work to do, (2) don't gloat.

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[–] firecat@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

They already removed some mods, it's not a threat it's Spaz being a jerk and awful person.

[–] Thief@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Everyone needs to realise it doesnt matter. Enough people already came to lemmy for us to carry on without reddit. Now we just do the normal long haul work - help users who need help so people start searching lemmy for tech solutions, post our normal content here so there is a reason to stay, upvote and comment others work so there is engagement. The rest will follow as this grows and grows. We have already won. Lemmy is no longer a fringe interest.

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[–] Bipta@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When r/WorkReform sprang up overnight and proposed to elect moderators, Reddit's admins threatened to ban the subreddit for that

Fuck Spez. Fuck Reddit. Build kbin.

[–] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Build ~~Kbin~~ Fediverse.

I like Lemmy more than Kbin, personally, but we can federate together and build up the fediverse 😄

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[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So much for moderators being "free to run their communities as they choose" as this article outlines

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/204533859-What-s-a-moderator-

It's pretty obvious they're given free reign until they happen to disagree with admins and then it's "they're holding subreddits hostage", "they're just Stewarts" etc

Reddit admins will legitimately say and do anything to frame this as not their own fuck up

[–] AndrewZabar@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Lol stewards.

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[–] Arystique@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I swear Reddit is not only not learning from history but purposely trying to repeat it again thinking oh the previous guys were just too weak....

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[–] operator@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

the fuckening just doesnt stop. u/Spez lost complete touch with the platform itself.

But hey, they own the joint. they can make their own decisions.

[–] nevernevermore@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah and we own this joint! I'm going to open my own instance, with blackjack and hookers

[–] Meat@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He has not lost touch, he doesn’t care. He’s bought and paid for. If shit does go south, he’s the fall guy.

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[–] spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know I'm just nitpicking the headline but leave it to the apple community publication to make this about their app.

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[–] Pekka@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Simply replacing all the mods sound like a good way to kill a subreddit, Reddit probably has no way to pick good mods... Mods will need some connection with the topic, and you don't want to pick random users with no experience for large subreddits.

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[–] Lawliss@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Stop giving thus self righteous, money hungry dickwad a voice, The Verge. Jesus christ. The more he talks, the dumber and more like Elon Musk he looks.

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It feels right to be reading this from the comfort of Lemmy.

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