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[-] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 204 points 8 months ago
[-] ericisshort@lemmy.world 82 points 8 months ago

Yeah, as an elder millennial, I’ve never been able to afford to live alone. This is by no means a new problem, but it’s definitely getting worse.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

I worked with a old woman in her 60s with a roommate in 2015. Her salary doesn't provide for her living alone.

For me, my rent doubled. So Im betting she's now with 1-3 more roommates since then.

[-] Detheroth@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 8 months ago

Just got engaged to my long term partner. We live with 2 other people and, with the way things are going, we will be married and still sharing accommodation because 2 full time jobs aren't enough to cover rent AND food.

My bootstraps can't be pulled any higher. I work 6 days a week and spend my Sunday working on my web design business to try make ends meet. Thank god I'm paying my landlords mortgage. I can't imagine how they're coping at the moment...

Its a clown world.

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[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 165 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Millennials: Uhm, we've been living that dream for over twenty years now.

I'm over 40 (one of the ancient Millennials) and literally I have only been able to live alone for exactly four years out of the twenty-three years since I moved out of my parents. I currently live with a partner, because, you guessed it, it's about the only way we can afford things now.

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 64 points 8 months ago

20 years ago, I could rent a 1 bedroom small apartment for under $1k. Now you're lucky to find the same for $2.5k. Pay has not more than doubled. They definitely have it worse than us.

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[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 months ago

Yeah let's not pretend it isn't so much worse now though.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 61 points 8 months ago

Yes, but it's worse for everybody. Millennials that have been renting for decades... How the hell are they going to get ahead enough to save up for a down payment!? Meanwhile, housing prices keep rising, outpacing even combined incomes. I realize some people are able to make it work, but I don't think it's the majority...

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 8 months ago

Oh absolutely, didn't mean for that to be a takeaway. These kids have got it way worse than we do, they were fucked right out of the gate even harder than we did. Just had my Gen X "they forgot about us" moment.

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[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 135 points 8 months ago

Are we pretending that millennials are affording apartments alone? Cause I know very few doing that. Moving back in with your parents, though, that shit's common.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

I was gonna say, most of Gen X has had roommates since we graduated college.

[-] Cheesus@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

The headlines just keep repeating. Insert newest generation and print

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago

It's getting measurably worse at a fairly predictable clip - boomers had it easy, x/y less so, it's dark for milennials, and impossible for zoomers/alpha.

The guardrails were removed and wheels set in motion by the boomers so they could more effectively ransack the economy - everything since then has been a consolidation of wealth and power at the direct expense of workers.

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[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

I'm in the Midwest. Most millennials I know are living on their own or with their partner. However, the younger millennials and gen Z I know? Very few I know aren't living with parents.

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[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 74 points 8 months ago

Landlords dream of a future where they can charge so much for rent that you need 3 generations of people crammed into a tiny apartment to make payments.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 39 points 8 months ago

Which would be exactly why the rest of us dream of a future where they don't exist

[-] remus989@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago
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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 65 points 8 months ago

Just a reminder.

In 1960, minimum wage was $1.00/hour and the average home was $11,000.

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago

So, national minimum wage is $7 something, so homes should be about $77k, right?

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago

Quick history of inflation in America. President Eisenhower started the US/Vietnam War, and JFK kept it going. Ike and Kennedy both wanted to keep it small, but LBJ made a major commitment of troops and air power to deliver a knockout punch. That turned into a quagmire where the US couldn't pull out without looking like losers. President Johnson [LBJ] started printing money to pay for the War, rather than raise taxes. Nixon was elected as a peace candidate. Nixon's Vietnam policy alone is worth several books, but we'll just talk about the US dollar.

Nixon doubled down on Johnson's bombing policy; the US factories were working 24/7 to make more weapons. Great, except the money was all paper. When the Arab Oil boycott hit the price of everything went through the roof. Suddenly stay at home moms were forced to get jobs to keep the family fed. In 1968 'middle class' was one job to support a family, by 1980, two income families were becoming the norm.

Then came Reagan. Big tax cuts for the rich were supposed to make everything golden again. In 1980, $1 million was considered a vast fortune; by 1992 it was what a really rich guy paid for a party.

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[-] hansl@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

I came in to say something similar. Don’t focus on the price of the rent. The problem is the salary. Rent to salary has been going up and someone is pocketing the difference.

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[-] Cagi@lemmy.ca 56 points 8 months ago

I'm a disabled millennial. I live in a dangerous old house with 5 roommates and I am still spending over half my money on rent.

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[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 43 points 8 months ago

the traditional way of life has been snuffed out by the forces of capitalism. there's no point trying to live a normal life anymore, we have to forge a new path

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[-] interceder270@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago

That's the point.

Expect things to continue to get worse as long as most people believe the disparity in wealth should continue to grow.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 34 points 8 months ago

That's hardly a new situation.

The only people I know that live alone do so in extremely tiny apartments in unpopular areas.

The only real way to buy is as a couple, and has been for decades.

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 34 points 8 months ago

We need a new deal, I mean a new new deal. Because this is getting ridiculous, I'm lying it was ridiculous 20 years ago, now it is just the reason why dystopian fiction is impossible to write, how can you top real life?

[-] guacupado@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

What kills me is when you go into the realestate subs and they talk about how they have to constantly increase every year because the cost of everything is going up.

Nah bruh, I've had my house for 4 years and nothing has increased at any noticeable level.

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

didn't this happen a long time ago to an earlier generation

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[-] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

This isn't new. I'm 43 so call me whatever you want, Gen X, Millenial, somewhere in between. I didn't live on my own (meaning without roommates) until about 10 years ago. And even then, I bought a house with my wife. so still kinda roommates.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago

Completely off topic, but in the article they say some apartment complexes are offering "private liquor lockups." Wtf?

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

Anecdotal, but when I was looking for my first apartment about ten years ago I toured a building that didn't allow residents to keep alcohol. Unsure if it's even legal (or enforced), but the landlord and property manager were a local pastor and his wife.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 34 points 8 months ago

I see. religious scumbags. fuck them

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago
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[-] quams69@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

I got evicted this year so I feel it

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