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[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 11 months ago

The last sentence is such a mask off, liberals are barely hiding their tinfoil hat thinking and the fact that they hate immigrants as much as the far right.

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[-] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 11 months ago

Everything I don't like is Russian

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Imagine an FSB agent going to a bombed out village in sub-Saharan Africa, from which UN forces just bloodily expelled ISIS fighters, and that agent trying to convince the villagers to all get up and move to Britain because Russia wants them too.

[-] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 11 months ago

Afaik ISIS has never been active in subsaharan Africa

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

ISIS has had a strong presence in Central and Northern Africa, and along with this article, off the top of my head I can say that there is a current UN multinational operation that is still fighting encircled remnant ISIS forces in Mali, Niger, Nigeria, and Mozambique.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territory_of_the_Islamic_State#:~:text=As%20of%202022%2C%20most%20of,large%20swathes%20of%20eastern%20Mali.

Quote, "As of 2022, most of IS's African territory is confined to northeastern Nigeria and northern Mozambique, alongside large swathes of eastern Mali."

This is from 2015:

https://www.iiss.org/en/publications/strategic-comments/2015/isis-in-africa/

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 11 months ago

I get blaming Russia for most things, but immigration? Really?

[-] comhelio@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 11 months ago

I figured it out that's a popular trope in Poland and liberal EU .

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago

The irony here is that the USSR actually took in refugees that Europe and the US wouldn't and otherwise allowed for a lot of immigration. If you were from Africa and you wanted to become a doctor before 2000 or so, you went to Russia.

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[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 11 months ago

There always has to be an external malicious actor at play because otherwise it would mean that liberalism is failing and people are increasingly rejecting it. We see this happening in US as well where democrats still believe in the whole Russiagate conspiracy theory despite it having been thoroughly debunked at this point.

People who are still in the liberal mainstream are invariably those who haven't been hit by any significant economic hardship, and they see their conditions as being largely representative of those of a typical person. They dismiss the notion that people are rejecting liberalism because the standard of living is declining because their own standard of living has remained largely unchanged. So, the only logical explanation must be that nefarious Russians or Chinese or whoever are behind all this brewing civil unrest western countries are seeing.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 11 months ago

All these years, libs have been blaming crime on video games, music, and other media. Should we be shocked that it's projection? That they base their worldview on games like Civ VI and Masters of Orion where you click 'send spy' and a little avatar walks across the border and hides among the designated enemy?

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 11 months ago

For sure, liberal world view is inherently infantile.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 11 months ago

Masters of Orion where you click ‘send spy’ and a little avatar walks across the border and hides among the designated enemy?

Lmao in Master of Orion espionage was just allocating % of your empire resources to it.

[-] sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 11 months ago

There is also the fact that they had used up all the child slaves and stolen inheritances of abducted aboriginal First Nation children in Indian Residential fake schools that officially ended in 1998 and that continued after 1998 in secret to sustain the excessive free riding demand of Western European diaspora. The Western European diaspora could uses the immigrant of color as source of slaves and thievery to sustain the white free riding privileges, but the exploitation is not as effective as the Indian Residential fake school slave camps and death camps. In fact, the European diaspora of North America and Australia still need to illegally dump toxic chemical waste and landfill with highly poisonous leachate into the properties of Aboriginal groups and African Americans, lie that the residential fake school Holocaust are just "cultural genocide" to hide that fact that all the Nazi war crimes originated in the Indian Residential fake schools, and imprison aboriginal people in concentration camps which are used as toxic chemical dump sites until the Aboriginal groups forfeit the fruit of their labor and the reparation for the 150 years of fake school death camps.

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[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've seen that take all over Reddit. Somehow Putin is causing Europe to be racist towards migrants and Wagner is in there to make Africa and the Middle East unstable so more migrants will go into Europe. Russiagate was the biggest gift libs ever got because now they accuse anything of being Russian.

They tried that shit in some parts of Latin America and it didn't take off because not as many people hate Putin as they do.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 11 months ago

It's worth noting that this didn't just happen organically. The democrats in US cultivated the whole Russiagate conspiracy theory to explain why Clinton lost to Trump back in 2016. Associating Russia with Trump was a brilliant move because Trump is so deeply hated by the democrat base, and this hatred was easily transplanted onto Russia by association. Thanks to the whole Mueller report, we now know that this was complete nonsense. Jacobin did some good reporting on it, but this didn't really get much coverage in the mainstream.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

Definitely saving this the next time an obnoxious lib sends me an article "proving" Russian interference.

[-] comhelio@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 11 months ago

Also Aaron mate and Max blumenthal did good reporting on it. Russia hacking US election . lol

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 11 months ago

I just love how people genuinely believe that spending few hundred thousand on Fb ads tilted an election campaign parties poured billions of dollars into. It's also funny how this whole election interference logic is never applied to Israel. If libs are so upset about Russian interference than why do they never have anything to say about the fact that Israel has an incredible amount of influence over their political system.

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[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago

I'm just so dumbfounded at that last statement. Immigration waves coordinated by russia? fucking what?!

[-] DesiDebugger@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's not like years of violent imperialist foreign policy have anything to do with it..

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

This has been all over Finnish news lately and my boomer relatives are going apopleptic about it. There is a huge surge of immigrants through the Eastern border currently, and I think the part where Russia comes in is that Russia is supposedly fast-tracking all immigrants that arrive within its borders visas and sending them to the Finnish border

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[-] HaSch@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 11 months ago

I don't know how many rubles I'd demand for voluntarily throwing away a quiet life to go on a Russian mission crossing the Mediterranean sea in a rowing boat, populate an abandoned Polish gym hall with like a thousand other migrants, and then live on subsidies in an area full of nazis; but it would not be a sum that the Kremlin could feasibly offer

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago

"Pekka Kallioniemi is a postdoctoral research fellow at the Tampere University and a social media expert."

For once I get to do the "muh taxpayer money" meme

[-] IsThisLoss@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago

Russia shit my pants

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

Got to the last sentence and holy shit

[-] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 11 months ago

This post is like Tommy Wiseau’s The Room: so convoluted and stupid, but I can just barely understand what’s being said. I can’t feign ignorance and say I don’t understand a single word they’re saying. But to say that I get where they’re coming from or that their points have any relevance or connection with the other shit they present is even more false. 1/10 post by the Lib, do better, get your narratives straight and stick to it

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[-] GiantSpoonWielder@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 11 months ago

Damn ~~Jewish bolsheviks~~ Russian interference threatening European whiteness. Same shit new century.

[-] jlyws123@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 11 months ago

Blame Russia and problems are solved. great.😂

[-] swiftessay@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 11 months ago

"Oh, beware the Moscow Gold!"

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 11 months ago

I can’t believe the Russians gave me a tummy ache 😞

[-] Franfran2424@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 11 months ago

Pekka is a guy whose job is doxxing people. so no shit, he is an asshole.

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[-] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

the Kremlin is behind mass immigration to the EU

It can't be the wars and poverty created by unequal exchange baked into the EU's trade system, it must be the guys who are about as physically far away from where the immigrants are coming from as it's possible to be.

[-] EuthanatosMurderhobo@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Dude...I wish FIS was capable and willing to do something anywhere near this. Half the time I'm convinced the service doesn't exist what with how comfortable certain people are abroad...

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