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What is shifting? (hexbear.net)
submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by Parsani@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
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[-] InternetLefty@hexbear.net 66 points 10 months ago

The latest internet spiritualism fads seem to be so invested in a no-rules type of spirituality that is ultimately very solipsistic. I think it's a result of our late capitalist isolation - some people want to push back against it but others fully embrace it. The idea that you can create a whole different reality based solely on your OWN decisions where other people are essentially just objects in your new reality while you maintain subjectivity is very solipsistic. 21st century cults are reflective of our new stay-at-home reality - why go to the compound with the rest of your Brothers and Sisters? Stay at home, microdose mushrooms and colloidal silver, and have your cult delivered to you over the Internet!

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[-] ElectronNumberSeven@hexbear.net 61 points 10 months ago

I can’t even dunk on shit like this it just makes me sad. I so understand just wanting to be in another world and hoping beyond hope that you’ll just one day wake up where it’s better and not hell world

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago

Yeah same, that's why I didn't put it in the dunk tank. I've also wanted to just go somewhere else, to some world which is less shit. I get where these people are coming from.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago

This is the most jesse-wtf shit I have ever seen.

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago
[-] Big_Bob@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago

People who have no connection to material reality will make up all kinds of bullshit ideologies and world views.

[-] GayTuckerCarlson@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What is shitting?

Fuck that was already posted

[-] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago

still no clear answer tho

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago

I've read through some posts and it's a bit sad. Similar vibe to readings posts people write about their AI girlfriends.

[-] booty@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Reminds me of this subreddit I came across once called /r/twinflames. As far as I can tell it's like the concept of a "soul mate." I was introduced to it by a user posting about how their life sucks because their "partner" or something (I can't remember what word they used) won't spend time with them. And everyone was like "dude this person wants nothing to do with you leave them alone" and I checked their post history and it was full of this twin flames stuff where they had convinced themselves they had some kind of supernatural connection with some random person who literally did not even want to be friends with them. After a little bit of pushback from people outside that sub they deleted their entire account. Probably made another one and just hang around in the creepy echo chamber after that.

(Oh god one of the top posts right now mentions shifting, there's a connection scared seriously though this stuff is freaky)

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago

Twin Flame is literally a cult run by some creepy ex-tech bro and his wife. They literally arrange marriages for people and if they marriages don't work out they tell them it's due to some "spiritual failing". Netflix just did a documentary about them.

[-] booty@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

Nah, that's just one specific cult using the term. It's not the whole "community." There are several of these online delusion echo chambers.

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[-] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

These kids are gonna be fucked when they discover dissociatives

[-] underwire212@lemm.ee 33 points 10 months ago

Believe it or not it also happens whenever you jerk off. Your alternate reality version jerked off to something much less disgusting.

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago
[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago
[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago

You can’t make me stop lustfully gazing at the meadow full of flowers! My clone won’t win this contest!

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Gooning is still an offence even if the goon material is a meadow full of flowers. However, the exception remains that it is permissible if there is a remembrance of Stalin.

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[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago

What reading too much isekai does to a mf

[-] davel@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago

shifting is moving your consciousness from one reality, the one your currently in, to a reality that you want to be in.

Manifest destiny.

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[-] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago

i hate that i already knew about this because a relative got really into it like a bit over 6 months ago or so, tbf she's also 13 and realised it was bullshit after like two weeks so i think she can be forgiven

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[-] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago
[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

Idk I've been trying for weeks

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago

I'm reading their FAQ and it's pretty crank. The thing I've noticed is that everyone has a desired reality (DR) but since it's extraordinarily unlikely that people will share the same DR due to differences in what they consciously and subconsciously desire, the vast majority of DR would be populated by clones with only the shifter as the "real" conscious agent, which is pretty depressing. Almost nothing that happens in the DR transfers over to current reality (CR), which makes the DR pretty pointless outside of experiencing a particular psychedelic experience or, as I suspect, as a form of escapism and coping in a harsh reality. Something bad happens in CR, you shift to your DR as your clone in CR eats shit, and you shift back to CR after the dust has settled.

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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago

unfortunately, reality has an automatic transmission

[-] Othello@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
  1. this is just maladaptive day dreaming

  2. wait till yall discover RCTAs

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

RCTAs

I've heard about this before.

The internet was a bad move

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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago

Ok but first you have to defne what a choice is. When said choice takes place and what makes it a choice?

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Tbh this description doesn't seem to conform to the posts I've been reading where people describe their own experience with it.

It seems like lucid dreaming is an important part for many, like a gateway, but it is unclear to me whether they are describing an extended lucid dream where they go to a separate reality in the dream (a lot of Harry potter based realities apparently) and their physical body is just sleeping.

Some say they have shifted for years and then woken up a day later. Some describe a "clone" of themselves doing all the things they would do, while they themselves are living in a separate reality.

It all seems very idiosyncratic from person to person.

Edit: even the clones part is unclear.

Clones are really just parallel realitys.

When everyone thinks of clones they think of them in this reality being life an empty shell and obeying their commands of their script after they shift to their Dr.

What are clones actually? -The reality of it is, clones don't exist. When you script that your clone will clean your room while you are gone, you are essentially scripting that you'll come back to a parallel reality in which you cleaned your room.

Whatever you script your "clone" to do, you're simply scripting to shift back to a reality in which you did that, not changing or altering what you're going to do in this specific reality once you shift. You would not be coming back to the same reality.

You can not control realitys or specific people in realities while you're not even there, so I don't know where the misconception of clones came in at.

TLDR; clones aren't real, you're shifting to parallel realities.

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[-] Azarova@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago

this is just lucid dreaming but using different language and pretending its real

[-] HolyDiver@aussie.zone 24 points 10 months ago

sorry if this is against the rules but what is this community for? i don’t know what a chapo, vaush, or nautilism means, the sidebar isn’t much help either.

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 39 points 10 months ago

i don’t know what a Vaush means

You lucky fucker

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[-] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago

i don’t know what a chapo, vaush, or nautilism means

please help us

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 27 points 10 months ago

You have no idea how free you are, never learn what those words mean

[-] moonlake@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago

This is the biggest online community about reality shifting. We are desperately trying to shift into the reality in which Hilary Clinton is the president planet-hillary

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[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago

You wound up in the weirdo commie corner of the internet. Exit is back down the hallway where you came, second door from the left. If you'd like to stay, there's a Leninist literature study session in room 3B that starts in 20 minutes

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[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is the de facto general purpose community on hexbear. Named after the subreddit the site spawned from, and the podcast titled Citations Needed.

Please keep in mind that funny-clown-hammer is a bannable offense.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

This comm is mostly used for stuff that doesn't fit into other comms and shitposting. Hexbear was originally called chapo.chat because it was founded by refugees from when Reddit banned the chapotraphouse sub, which is where this comm gets its name

Vaush is a really shitty politics and debate streamer. Anti-natalism is the idea that it is immoral to have children.

[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

Welcome to our weirdo corner of weirdos. Hang out a bit and it'll slowly make sense lol.

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

ChapoTrapHouse is a fan community for the Citations Needed podcast. Vaush is an internet personality who lobbies NATO to let him fuck children. Natulism is a 28 year old thoroughbred racing horse from Australia that had 10 wins across 53 races, winning a combined half a million australian dollareedoos.

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[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

I'm very fond of the many-worlds interpretation of QM, but boy has it caused a lot of dumb shit.

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[-] CDommunist@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago

What if you could reality shift but you had to shit your pants in public to do so. When you enter the new reality you are back in public with even more shit in your pants

How often do you shift?

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[-] iie@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago

I can imagine this concept leading a subset of neurodivergent people down some very fucked up thought spirals

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