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[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 70 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Why would Biden ever step down?

Biden has gone further than any previous American president could ever have imagined.

The war in Ukraine has completely severed any chance of Europe forming a close alliance with Russia and China in the upcoming showdown between US and China. That’s a huge win for the neocons.

Europe is now spending huge proportion of their GDP to militarize, and that also means austerity and cutting welfare and social programs. That’s a huge win for the American military industrial complex and the private equity firms looking to cannibalize European public utilities and companies.

The US went from being a net oil importer to net exporter after the war started. American natural gas is now replacing Russian gas. That’s a huge win for the American fossil fuel industry.

Remember when Trump bragged about how well the stock market was doing under his presidency? Well, S&P500 is now 50% (!!) higher than the highest point during Trump’s era. The rich people are not just getting free money, they are SWIMMING in it. That’s a huge win for the American donor class.

Biden has achieved everything that Trump had promised the donor class but failed to deliver.

Why would the donor class ever want to replace Biden? Just because his polling is bad? You cannot be this naive and think that democracy is well and alive in the country? I can assure you that if they want to favor a certain outcome, it is going to happen.

I’m going to guess that over the next 11 months, there will be something such repulsive coming from the GOP platform that half of the “progressives” who swore never to vote for Biden, will end up defending Biden because “Trump is threatening to destroy our democracy”. The other half will keep the facade while secretly voting for Biden in the ballot box, because they are so afraid of what’s going to happen if Trump wins again.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

All of that is true, but Biden’s approval is currently lower than Trump’s and Carter’s at the same points in their presidencies.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Honestly does that really matter? Like every president is unpopular in the social media age. Once the election is actually on the horizon the media will blitz us with Biden good, Orange man bad propaganda and the normies will fall in line.

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Like every president is unpopular in the social media age

Not xi-lib-tears

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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*Every US President

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Biden is also behind Trump in every swing state. It’s still mostly a coin toss as to who will win in 2024 but it’s not looking great for Biden.

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[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

That’s why I said:

Biden has gone further than any previous American president could ever have imagined.

Biden is surely breaking new grounds everywhere. I think we’re going to find out, if it hasn’t been made clear over the years, that the opinion of the 95% doesn’t matter at all.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The US went from being a net oil importer to net exporter after the war started.

pretty sure this already happened during the Obama administration

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The US has always been a net importer until last year:

But it’s true that the trend has been going for a while, just that the Ukraine war accelerated and pushed it across the boundary.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

apparently I was remembering the stat for refined petroleum

In May 2011, the country became a net exporter of refined petroleum products.

[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

hillary-assassin It's her turn.

[–] JuryNullification@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago

Tech CEO Rachel Jake

[–] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm hoping for Biden not to get the hint, resulting in a very public backstabbing, leading to Hillary v Trump Round 2

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That would be how it all broke out smfh

[–] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Imagine all of the ride or die Biden libs suddenly defending him getting dumpstered by the party, it would be so funny.

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[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's going to be Biden vs Trump because Biden doesn't stand a chance against anyone but Trump and Trump doesn't stand a chance against anyone but Biden.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

Explaining yin and yang to someone with a substack:

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

volcel-kamala would also probably lose

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Trump doesn't stand a chance against anyone but Biden

hillary-apartment

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I love that in all the chatter I've heard about this volcel-kamala isn't even mentioned as a possibility. It's like they're pretending she doesn't exist. Very funny for the VP.

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That means everything is going according to plan. She will come out and offer herself as the compromise candidate when the time is ripe.

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[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

truth is, game was rigged from the start hillgasm

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

starts playing This is My Fight Song

[–] flan@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago

what makes you think he'll step down?

[–] Cherufe@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] borlax@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

I would be okay with a slide towards monarchy, we deserve King Hunter.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Biden will be the nominee if he's legally alive

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

And they're willing g to change the kaw if necessary

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nobody because I don't think he'll step down. His ego is too big and he's been doing his job well for the people who really pull the strings. The bigger question is if he'll keep Kamala around or have her replaced by another token.

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[–] ElGosso@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He won't, he'll cling on to power as long as his heart keeps pumping

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Thing is they'll just replace the heart with a machine and Darth Cheney that shit. Look at what happened when the Universe tried to veto Bibi

[–] Bnova@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

Here's how Bernie can still win...

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oscilating between "It's her turn" and "he will die onstage like that ukranian nazi"

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

Lol you think he's stepping down che-laugh

[–] Deadend@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

good-morning

It’s HER TURN

[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago
[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You mean like, steps down off the stage and falls, breaking every single bone in his bag of skin? Probably just do a weekend at bernies and pretend he's fine

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[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

I'm still rooting for candidate Long Coma

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

tulsi gabbard

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