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German here: please learn from our mistakes and try to keep it in the hand of the government if possible. Private companies that maintain rail systems will only destroy it. Trust me.

[-] Crowfiend@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately for us Americans, the railway industry was privatized long ago, and they consistently lobby for things to only move in their favor.

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

B-but that's socialism

[-] Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I mean honestly, if any government can fuck up a large-scale infrastructure project it's absolutely the US federal government.

[-] Redfox8@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Come to the UK and marvel at our range of privatised services. It's poetry in motion! Not that I'd dare think what would have happened in the past 13 years of glorious Conservative 'governance' had anything been in public ownership...

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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My programmer's dream is to use a geodata map of the US with population and visitor statistics to make a slime mold map to use as the transit model.

Geodata because I want it to account for terrain in addition to population and visitor data.

I also want to include the national parks system in it just because it can revitalize the whole thing with stationside hotels for people to leave their junk at while they're in the parks.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I don't fully understand what all that means but I like the sound of it and hope your dream comes true

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank you!

Basically a slime mold map is simulating a blob that forms a network of centers and bridges based on the location of "food", and supposedly in the process demonstrates the most efficient network of transportation between those locations.

Its applications for public transit were realized when trying it out with an actual slime mold revealed a map very similar to the actual layout of the Tokyo metro system, hence the name.

So the theory is that you can simulate transit stations by putting "food" at those locations and the slime mold simulation will organically draw a map of an efficient transit network for you because it's a stretchy little slime that just wants food.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Super interesting stuff thanks for sharing.

[-] tamal3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Haha yes it also bothered me that the slime mold didn't have to consider the ferocity of the Rocky Mountains.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Get me dat yellow line! Pop into NO in 2 hours, get hammered en Vieux Carre, nap on the ride back? SOLD.

6 hours to El Paso? And I could finally afford to visit the west coast?!

So many ways to pay for this. Haul for Amazon, UPS, FedEx, USPS, all of them. Use passenger fees for ongoing maintenance.

This could be the next iteration of the interstate highway system. Ya know, that thing that made America's economy explode by connecting us?

And if we took many passengers, and at least some freight, off the interstates, less maintenance costs.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Keep freight and passenger trains on seperate tracks for the most part otherwise you end up like Canada where passenger trains have to yield (delay) to let the frieght pass.

[-] Jerkface@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, because of this it takes me 8 hours to make a trip to Seattle by train when it takes 5.5 hours by car. That entire trip is in the US, too.

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

why does florida get three lines?

[-] webjukebox@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

That's why this is disgusting.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Reprehensible, honestly.

[-] Godnroc@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Expedite leaving Florida.

[-] Enk1@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Disney and Miami/Keys. No one WANTS to go through Jacksonville, but it's the shortest route if you're going down the coast.

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Huge tourist hub and destination for a lot of flights. Need lines from both the northeast and Midwest to capture a majority of the air traffic going there.

Speaking as a former midwesterner who would drive down to Florida with their family for vacations this would be a god send, I'm sure most east coasters would agree too.

[-] Grellan@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

The blue green are just a merged line I think. Florida is. Kst heavily populated on its coasts and then part way down you have the ver glades. Of you look at a map of Florida now this is more or less what I75 and I95 do.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Expedite moving old people to Florida

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[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

"But America is too vast to have rail lines!!!"

[-] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

"No, I don't care if Russia has a good system, Russia does everything badly"

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

yeah airplanes were supposed to be the solution for this, but since air travel absolutely sucks now unless you have your own private jet, I guess we're taking it back to the ground.

[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

Also, it takes way more energy per person to travel by plane than train.

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[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Because Montana & North Dakota don't deserve modernization.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I've been to both. Montana is happy to larp as a cowboy state and North Dakota knows what it did.

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

whispers: What did ND do??

[-] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Or South Dakota, or Wyoming, or Idaho, or any part of Nevada that isn't Las Vegas.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

It's not that those places don't deserve modernization, it's just that those are much more sparsely populated areas, with much longer distances between population centers. From a cost and logistics perspective, it doesn't make sense to build routes in those places before establishing routes elsewhere, in denser areas. You have to walk before you can run, etc.

[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

WE RAN OUT OF DESTINY, QUICK, MANIFEST MORE.

[-] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Man if only. I would be in Vegas every other month if the train was already done.

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Wild that it would still take over a DAY to get from NYC to LA. The USA is huge

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

A day? That's still incredibly fast. It takes a week to drive a car across the country.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The cannonball run records are under 24 hours. A week travel includes few hours per day travel and generous breaks.

[-] HATEFISH@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

The canonball run records also involve teams of people driving ahead with radios so they can do stretches of 120+

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[-] roon@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

This should be posted to that fuckcars community

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The pink line cuts across NH without a stop at either Manchester or Concord.

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

I mean, affordable high speed rail is kinda sexy, iykwim

[-] s12@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

What did that mass of land in the North-West-ish ever do to you?

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Very few people live there, though they should probably extend the turquoise line so the PNW can go somewhere other than California.

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[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

Anyone in Quebec getting on the Chicago train is in for a nasty surprise.

[-] tamal3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I currently live in a void, but would absolutely move to be adjacent to a high speed node. This is an excellent map to think about.

What data was used to decide on routes? Is it based off highway data?

[-] figjam@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

Most of it is existing or proposed Amtrak routes

[-] ikapoz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Quincy? Really?

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