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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by SnowySkyes@hexbear.net to c/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@hexbear.net

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[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I do not lmao not a chance in hell. Maybe a couple of em are okay, but naaaaaaaaaaaah not a chance. Fwiw the caliber of cissie is much higher here than anywhere else due to purges, but Idk.

It's not even that I think they're all bad, (I do, but) I also just think a lot of the cis have never been anywhere near a trans person having discussions of sex, so I see a lot of worrisome potential.

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

I'm going to throw myself under the bus and I hope you'll give your honest thoughts.

What's the difference between that and me (or some other baby trans)? I haven't been around trans people much. This mega is basically everything. I don't think I was radically different before my shell (mostly) broke.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You are trans. There is all the difference in the world.

The biggest one would be that you would approach such a comm and talking to trans people in it as a trans person, to learn more about it for yourself? You also probably have far more awareness and respect than the average cis person does even just now. I haven't really seen you (or anyone else, except me lol) put foot in mouth, you approach it from a place of respect and understanding, a similar mindspace. I just do not trust the average cis, who has often devoted less than seconds of total thought to gender, to handle those subjects well. Brainworms get dug out in this megathread; cis people are often made of brainworms and don't even think it's bad. I might not be explaining this well...

It may well be possible to moderate such a comm the same way this one is, but that'd be even more load on the mods Idk.

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

Whatever you say cheems I feel just as brainwormy as I was before.

No you're explaining it well, that makes sense. Maybe some of it is an experience thing too. And I guess if it is just for trans people, then it not allowing cis people makes sense.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

I don't think you are ✨

It'd probably be impossible to run a fully cisfree comm tbh, Idk how you would do that. Which sucks but y'know...

[-] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

You try, and already know stuff from being around here. Cissies usually haven’t even thought to try to understand us.

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

Maybe I'm not recognizing the differences between me as an egg and cis people, because I've always wanted to understand trans people. Its sad that isn't the case for the cis.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago
[-] magi@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago
[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What's the difference between that and me (or some other baby trans)?

Well, you want honest thoughts, so imma be honest here. A lot of baby trans people just aren't very safe to be around for other trans people when it comes to things like residual cishetnormative habits, internalized transphobia, trauma dumping without warning and especially rampant untreated dysphoria they need to vent about without knowing how to talk dysphoria in ways that do not reflect back on other trans people and harm them. It's work helping the younglings along. And specifically in regards to your question, i usually do not feel much more comfortable discussing sex with freshly cracked eggs than i do with cishet guys. There's already some notable differences even before the crack, many transbians have always felt different from straight guys for very good reasons, but there'll also be tons of learned behavior she hasn't unlearned yet.

Here's the main difference to cis guys, tho: Eggs can, and usually deeply want to learn to act better than that, and when you do not want to be seen as a man, you can shed patriarchal ideas much faster than somebody who has to maintain a masculine gender role. Transfems can improve on these things at a lightning pace that will never be achievable for cis dudes, not even queer cis dudes, because a transfem coming out of her shell actively wants to discard things that men feel a need to hold on to. So i'm trying my best to give the egg / baby trans crowd room to grow and to learn, and to be less harsh on them than i'd be on cis people. But yeah, it often costs a lot of spoons. I feel an obligation to do that work and give back to the community, but it can be demanding when you see somebody with a lot of baggage to unpack and don't know where to begin.

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

That's very fair kitty-cri even if it makes me a little sad.

especially rampant untreated dysphoria they need to vent about without knowing how to talk dysphoria in ways that do not reflect back on other trans people and harm them

I'm surprised that this is a bigger reason then internalized transphobia. I would have thought that would be more of a risk to other trans people then my dysphoria/how I vocalize that dysphoria.

I really appreciate you (and all the other people!) who help give back to the community in that way, I'm sure it does cost a lot of spoons. And yes so much to shed ohnoes

[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

I'm surprised that this is a bigger reason then internalized transphobia

i guess it's more about what i encounter most often than about what fucks with me the most

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

I'm surprised that this is a bigger reason then internalized transphobia. I would have thought that would be more of a risk to other trans people then my dysphoria/how I vocalize that dysphoria.

At least here I tend to find that our beloved eggs trans-egg are pretty okay about knowing what to hide behind a spoiler. I click em all the time because Idk, but while I can't speak for everybody it hasn't been a problem to me tbh. I think people find unlimited hardcore dysphoria venting more fatiguing than people working through internalised bs.

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I hope I spoiler everything I need to ralsei-pretty

At least for me and [personal subject that upsets me] just having a heads up that's what I'm about to read helps a lot. idk why exactly. Probably the same for dysphoria posts.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

Yeah that's pretty much it I think. Bonus points the more stuff you spoiler, lol.

[-] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

Good post. However babyish I am, I’m glad I don’t have much baggage to burden others with.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

GOOD POST cat-trans I never really considered that it's work helping the younguns along, I guess I have a brain parasite that makes me enjoy it.

Also do not spend all of your spoons meow-hug

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