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No one should be stabbed in prison, but of all the people who are, this is who I feel the least sorry for.
I don't feel the need to wish people harm, but I also don't feel the need to care equally for everyone who is harmed. Sucks to suck.
For me it would be Sheriff Arpaio. That definitely happened in the good timeline where he didn't get a presidential pardon.
I would be pretty ok if Martin Shkrelli and Sam Bankman-Fried were stabbed in prison.
I would not. I would not be okay with anyone being stabbed in prison.
Prison shouldn't be about vengeance. I don't care how awful you are.
Okay but what about them getting stabbed outside of or inbetween prison?
How about not compounding murder with a second murder?
Maybe not murder, maiming yes murder nah. Death is to good for him.
Or... and hear me out here... we don't encourage violence?
I'm not encouraging any violence, but i sure am savoring the schadenfreude.
But how else will people feel morally superior to people they don't like if they don't flippantly wish violence and death on them?!
I don't even think it's a moral superiority thing. I think it's this idea that people should get what they deserve. Of course, this both ignores that "what they deserve" is entirely subjective and that who should get what they deserve is entirely subjective.
At the same time people are celebrating Chauvin being stabbed in prison, or harmed elsewhere there can easily be found instances of conservatives celebrating when someone they don't like gets stabbed in prison or harmed elsewhere. People on the left were aghast at Republican celebrations of Paul Pelosi being attacked with a hammer. The right thinks he deserved to be attacked because he's a bad, bad man and he got what he deserved.
Maybe no one should get what they deserve. Maybe justice and vengeance should be two different things and we should strive for one without the other.
It's depressing that this isn't the common viewpoint.
Some people commit crimes that are truly sickening, but even in those circumstances the point of prison is rehabilitation and separation of them from the public. Having it become a place for people to fetishize punishment like it is in TV/movies is also sickening.
Maybe it will encourage prison reform? I think about all the falsely imprisoned people and people sent to prison for nonviolent crime and my sympathy for the likes of sbf goes away.
It's not about sympathy. I have no sympathy for Derek Chauvin. It's about prison not being about vengeance.
Until there is serious reform shit likethis is part of the prison experience.
That doesn't mean it should be cheered on.
This is the most appropriate response so far. Condoning violence on someone serving their sentence is kind of fucked. If death were an option, many people would opt for it and this just shows how little people grasp the severity of time is as a punishment.
After approximately two years, people start to lose the ability to live a normal life. They end up becoming institutionalized and only being able to live in a prison facility.
This helps nobody. This does not rehabilitate, teach, or forgive. You can't get back what was lost, but you can promote growth, or feed hate I suppose. Hate breeds more hate though.
Some people are beyond rehabilitation. You let them out and they something terrible again are you going to say aww shucks, the child rapist got out and raped another child, really thought the rehab would have helped?
So that person that can't be rehabilitated, will spend the rest of their life in jail while our tax dollars pay for him to live, meanwhile the victim will live the rest of their life traumatized by what he did, with no support of help from our tax dollars. He will never offer anything useful to society.
I've read that permanent effects happen after 12 hours or so. Not all but some.