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[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (6 children)
[–] Mwallerby@startrek.website 74 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Europeans: call a game where you kick ball with foot "football"

Americans: call a game where you throw ball with hands "football"

One of these makes more sense to me... :p

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Europeans came up with the word "soccer" as a shortened form of "Association football" to distinguish it from the numerous other forms of football being played (rugby etc).

So, it's your fault anyway.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

It was not Europeans. It was the British. And it was the upper class British. Specifically at the Oxford University. The people in both continental Europe and Britain always called it football.

"Soccer" is technically a slur for lower class football.

Even the British call it football now, but the soccer slur still lives on in America and other colonies.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"It wasn't Europeans, it was this group of people from Europe."

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A small group of people from of a single country does not represent the entire population of the continent.

The sentence "Americans say 'aloha' instead of 'hello'* is just as right or wrong.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 month ago
[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago

“Soccer” is technically a slur for lower class football.

America: I'm not seeing the issue here.

:P

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk -1 points 1 month ago

It was not Europeans. It was the British.

My brother you need to look at a map once in a while or resit your geography exams 🤣😂.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It was the Brits. Europe refers to a collection of countries.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the uk is also a "collection of countries".

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, and as far as I’m aware it’s the collection of countries that created the term Association Football. Could be wrong though.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Brits are Europeans, so the statement wasnt incorrect

[–] Beldarofremulak@discuss.online 9 points 1 month ago

Europeans when it's positive, individual culture subset when it's something bad.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Europeans” is too vague. Why would you refer to Europe like it’s one country?

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 month ago

to get engagement

[–] Mwallerby@startrek.website 8 points 1 month ago

NGL I kinda forgot about rugby, fair point

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

And we've since corrected our mistake.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that message may come from us or canada, the rest of the world would side with europe

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Hey, don't leave Australia and New Zealand out of club soccer, too. Soccer happens to be the preferred term in most anglophone countries.

[–] intelisense@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

OK, so this may shock some, but my posh English school called football 'soccer'. Football was what most people would call rugby. Cricket was... Cricket.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

posh English school

Admit it, the braying oafs in the pub called it "ruggah"

[–] intelisense@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Probably. I hated all of it and still do, so I've no idea what they said in the pub.

[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Most nations of the world refer to the beautiful game as football, or a derivative thereof. Then there’s that one nation…

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

😄 Thank you. Obviously not what I was referring to, but still a point.

In Japan the most common term is sakkā, that came into use from US influence after the war. Both futtobōru and football is in use, though.

Although the official English name of the Japan Football Association uses the term "football", the term sakkā (サッカー), derived from "soccer", is much more commonly used than futtobōru (フットボール). The JFA's Japanese name is Nippon Sakkā Kyōkai.

Before World War II the term in general use was shūkyū (蹴球, kick-ball), a Sino-Japanese term. With previously exclusive Japanese terms replaced by American influence after the war, sakkā became more commonplace. In recent years, many professional teams have named themselves F.C.s (football clubs), with examples being FC Tokyo and Kyoto Sanga FC.

[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then there’s that one nation…

Sure, but we forgive Italy just because they love the game so much, they can have their own strange name for it if they want.

[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Italy has to be Italy :) And Juventus Football Club plays calcio, so while they do have their own awesome word they seem to be on team football ;)

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Ah yes, Australia

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

soccer is an abbreviation of associated football. which apparently had rather upper class implications in the UK and as such the word never caught on with the hoi poloi

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago