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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 100 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

The minute we set foot in a sovereign country with intent to seize, we’ll be sanctioned into the ground by NATO. It will be completely warranted, yet Trump will somehow convince MAGA that they’re ‘attacking’ us economically.

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Of all the people to blindly believe and follow, why him? Absolutely nothing I've seen about him even hints a wisp of "you can trust me" vibe. Did he do something amazing on The Apprentice? I never watched that screen feces, so I don't know what was portrayed. I can only assume it was something spellbinding and miraculous based on the cultist compulsion millions of human brains seem to exhibit.

Or did they all just hate Hillary Clinton or Obama SO MUCH that it permanently broke their brains?

[–] FatsoJackson@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago

Or did they all just hate Hillary Clinton or Obama SO MUCH that it permanently broke their brains?

don't underestimate how incredibly racist and sexist some parts of the states are

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago

He tells the shitty people that their hate is good and proper, so they convince themselves that his actions are correct.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Of all the people to blindly believe and follow, why him?

Trump openly promises fascism in terms stupid enough that fascists can understand.

There's not much more to it.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I assume you mean a western country with intent to seize, because we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and NATO supported those campaigns.

[–] seppoenarvi@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be clear, NATO had no role in the invasion of Iraq, but UK and some other NATO members were part of the coalition.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 23 hours ago

Yeah. And the proud boys and KKK just have members who are also members of the republican party. The party of course has no role in it ;)

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I did mean seize, not invade. I fixed the comment. Thank you for the correction.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Then Trump will be legally allowed to invade the hague.

"The United States is not a member of the International Criminal Court (ICC). The American Service-Members' Protection Act authorizes the President of the United States to use "all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court". This authorization led to the act being nicknamed "The Hague Invasion Act",[4] since the act would allow the president to order military action in The Hague, the seat of the ICC, to prevent American or allied officials and military personnel from being prosecuted or detained by the ICC.[5]"

EDIT - While I realize this doesn't apply to sanctions, it still sets a scary precedent for checking USA's actions.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 33 points 1 day ago

International law couldnt give a fuck about that. That's like saying Russia could legally invade Ukraine if they have a law saying it's okay.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Does the term “legally” even matter in US politics anymore?

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

NATO can’t sanction the US.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Article Five of the treaty states that if an armed attack occurs against one of the member states, it should be considered an attack against all members, and other members shall assist the attacked member, with armed forces if necessary.

https://nato.usmission.gov/about-nato/

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

While NATO's Article 5 states that an attack on one member is an attack on all, it does not mandate a specific response, but rather each member decides what actions it deems necessary to assist the attacked member.

Besides, Panama is not a NATO member.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That clause is null and void between member states to prevent a WW1 situation.

Also, Panama isn't a member and would be defending, not invading.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that's not really relevant here since panama isn't a NATO member

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s true. It would apply to Canada and Denmark though.

[–] lysol@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Canada is also a member of the Commonwealth, so the UK would pretty much be forced to go to war against the US if Canada was invaded.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

Sure, but they won’t.