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"paid leave"
Why do I feel like they are taken out of op's vacation days?
We aren't all Americans
Because they are? A lot of places don't offer sick leave anymore. Sick days, bereavement days, vacation days, all come from the source. It's really only Millenials and older who get sick days.
I assume you're talking about the US ?
Some places. It's different from state to state.
Kind of a nothingburger comment but until i saw your comment i didn't even realise that was possible. The fact this is acceptable, or even legal in the united states is absurd
Yeah fortunately I don't work there anymore and work someplace that respects it's workers. Took a lot of time, luck, trial and error to get where I am now.
Damn. I was wondering why nobody mentioned it, but it is so normal to you (plural), that you don't bother.
That's crazy. For me it's an absolute affront to even suggest I should give up vacation days for being sick. In my country Germany (and probably all of Europe, maybe also Asia) you get a slip from your doctor and you stay home till you're better.
Paid. And nobody touches your vacation days. I'm just speechless.
Same in latinamerica. The US dosen't even have the labor standards that third world countries have
When I was in the UK, you didn't even need a slip from the doctor, just told your employer you were sick and stayed home, because everyone understood it is simply better that way.
my dad has tales of a coworker who gave precisely 0 fucks and would call in sick reliably every monday after having drank themselves into oblivion, it took the workplace years to finally be able to get rid of him.
A doctor's note very well could be how it works in the US, none of us know because we'd be bankrupted by going to a doctor.
I can also stay home when sick without a doctor's note for up to three days, no questions asked. With pay and without using vacation days of course.
The US is a trash country. If you actually take time off to be sick we either fire you outright or sideline you for promotions so people prove how dedicated they are by showing up and giving all our coworkers communicable diseases like flu and covid. Most of them in turn then feel obligated to show how dedicated THEY are by giving more folks and the whole affair just slows down and gets more inefficient than if 1 person had stayed home.
Millennials get sick days?
I remember my company did this. We started with one week vacation, one week sick and they just made it two weeks pto one day
I don't work for that company anymore, now I work in a great workplace. But yeah, it happens.
Millennial here. Every office job I have worked has either had unlimited sick time or unlimited vacation. (Hourly contracting roles aside.)
This just isn't true. For instance in WA we are required to accumulate separate sick time.
Many many many companies still use a separate sick time because they are willing to pay folks who are actually ill but aren't particularly disposed to provide much vacation time. This is extremely common in low level low wage jobs more so than white collar shit.