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[–] SnapdragonBeehive@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

I'm a libertarian commie myself (not a tankie). The overton window has shifted so far to the right that people are fully convinced that socdems are leftist. Socdems are like the bare friggin' minimum and it's crazy how many people don't realise that.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Libertarian communism? Does that mean every business is a CO-OP?

How would you prevent the state from favoring one CO-OP over the other and creating a co-op monopoly by favoritism?

Sorry, not trying to attack you. I'm a radical leftist and libertarian communism is sort of the most Lemmy thing I've ever heard.

[–] SnapdragonBeehive@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Workers control everything, basically. It's hard to put all into one comment, but it's a bit like anarchism. Considering that I'm fairly new to Lemmy, I take that as a compliment. Plus, private property isn't a thing under this system.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Plus, private property isn't a thing under this system.

Well, you had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.

[–] SnapdragonBeehive@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Another fun fact is that China cannot be truly considered communist. It's socialist, but not communist. It has similarities to communism, though. Considering some of the people working under harsh conditions for money, it cannot be considered communist.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

China doesn't claim to be communist, "yet".

China ... [is] socialist

No it isn't, Socialism "with Chinese Characteristics" is doing some extremely heavy lifting.

It's a capitalist state, pretty evidently. The government having state run companies doesn't negate this. Further, those state run companies are not beholden to their workers, nor the people at large.

Without worker control, that's not socialism.

Workers unions are functionally illegal (the state run one, most certainly does not count as it doesn't authorise strikes in almost all circumstances, as far as I'm aware).

Look up China Tobacco, a great example of how just having industries nationalised, doesn't make something socialist.

China is just as bad as the rest of the capitalist nations, they're just bad in their own unique ways.

All the cool comrades know that "socialism" in the mould of Stalinist USSR or China isn't a great model.

Inb4 USA is worse! - nah, they're both capitalist states. I'm not a "China Bad" believer, much of what we hear in mainstream western media is overblown or inaccurate to manufacture consent for a conflict between us.

The ruling class in all countries simply use the rest of us for their own gain.

[–] mimavox@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago

True, that's what's so infuriating about the term "woke". Woke is just common-sense empathy, like what used to be the norm in the past. I haven't changed, it's y'all that have become fascists.

People thought academics were socialists during the Vietnam War too

This is nothing new

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Left libertarian we generally call Anarchist.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Yeah, I was a Libertarian myself until the early 2000's. Not anymore though.

Their anything goes gun stance became, to me, a red line after school shootings became a daily thing in the US. Watching them parade RFK and Donald at their convention in 2024 demonstrated that maybe their principles aren't exactly as strong as they say they are.

But we'd be better off Johnson had been elected. 100%. Too bad people cared more about Syria than whether or not Americans can eat.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Libertarian commie =/= libertarian

They're a different kind of weird. lol

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Must be. We're getting way too deep into the identitarian weeds for me. :)

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I just say anarcho-communist to make it more obviously different

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

DENNIS: I told you. We’re an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.

ARTHUR: Yes.

DENNIS: But all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting.

ARTHUR: Yes, I see.

DENNIS: By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs–

ARTHUR: Be quiet!

DENNIS: –but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more–

ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, unironically a decent framework to start with. Arthur cant handle it because as a monarch it is chaos to him

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sure it sounds good in theory, but were any of your little "anarcho-syndicalist" buddies bestowed the blade Excalibur by the Lady of the Lake? Didn't think so, libtard.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah, they were bestowed crates of rifles though

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's how the police get called, and honestly that ending was a literal cop out.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Lmao it was wasnt it

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

Buddy youve gotta realize by now that the LP is just a way for the rich to funnel more wealth

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Oh ok so you're an illiterate dumbass

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

how radicalized is globalizing the intefada?

very? not much? medium-rare?

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It's fairly radical why do you ask