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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It is at this moment I would like to remind everyone that 100 is the average IQ, which necessarily means that half of the people that walk among us are rocking double digit IQs.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's not necessarily half. There could be a group that is a fair bit less than half, but are so dumb they throw the averages off.

[–] lyrial@anarchist.nexus 1 points 21 hours ago

IQ Georg is an outlier and should not be considered

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a normal distribution so it's pretty damn close to half

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Sure, but there are going to be brain injuries and other disabilities that have a limiting effect on IQ, which would lower the mean relative to the median at least a little. And it's hard to imagine there's an equivalent upward trend of genius outliers.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, 100 is the median IQ, but that doesn’t preclude there being a lot of people with exactly 100 IQ. Thus there would be less than half of the population below 100 (and also less than half above 100).

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Think about how dumb the average person is, then realize half the population is even fucking dumber.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

That quote from Carlin is one that often comes to mind, LOL.

It's alarming to learn how accurate that actually is. People often talk about how comedians are basically today's philosophers and I can understand why.

The measurements on numeracy and literacy in the United States explains quite a bit about one's everyday experience. I mean, I went to university and graduated. I got mostly A's in K-12. I was not valedictorian. I did not have a 4.0 in university. I don't have a PhD. I consider myself someone with about average intelligence, but I applied myself. I read rather widely. I try to apply logic to situations and assess new material as it comes in.

I don't think this is some high bar for an adult. Honestly, I consider the above the bare minimum. Often it felt like I was coasting in high school and parts of university.

But everyday experiences and seeing how other adults behave and what they believe and accept as "fact" seems to constitute a baffling array of the ridiculous and the silly. When you remember things like this, it makes a bit more sense:

https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/survey-of-adults-skills-2023-country-notes_ab4f6b8c-en/united-states_427d6aac-en.html

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Gtfo 100? Huh, I would have thought it would be higher, the intelligence quotient test does no such thing as measure intelligence however. They're logic tests, and if you practice logic tests you get better at them, intelligence is the ability to learn, smarts is your compiled knowledge. If anything this IQ test measures your smarts.

That said people are dumb as shit for many reasons.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Despite the other person suggesting it is 'higher now', nope.

It is by definition 100. (Mean not median as incorrectly suggested by me earlier. Those correction are valid and welcome.)

But yes. 100.

A lot of responses to my post have a lot of armchair this and that so I haven't interacted with them.

https://www.pearsonassessments.com/content/dam/school/global/clinical/us/assets/featured-topics/assessment-primer-whitepaper.pdf

See for yourself. (Page 3-4)

Scores are adjusted such that the median is ALWAYS 100. That's how we do IQ. Every response to my previous post ignoring this and arguing otherwise should just be outright ignored.

Ugh sorry. It's them not you lol.

It is by definition that the average IQ is 100. I responded to you and not them because you weren't pretentious about getting new information. 🍻

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, it's normalized so the median is 100.

[–] ReluctantlyZen@ani.social 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sure, but the poll itself is already dumb. Why poll opinions on a fact? It implies there's any actual value or some truth to this.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Something can be a fact and a belief at the same time. E.G. some people believe the moon landing was faked or that the Earth is flat. It's a fact that the cost of living was lower under Biden yet some people believe that it's lower under Trump. Those people are just as crazy as the flat Earthers, and yet they still exist. The real concerning thing is how many of them there are though. The fact that it's not something like 1% or fewer that believes Trump is better is really concerning but sadly not surprising. Your average Trump supporter is really dumb and ignorant.

[–] ReluctantlyZen@ani.social 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, but why even poll for that?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago

Because politics is driven by perception, not reality. That's why propaganda works.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Because if 40% of people believed the Earth was flat you'd probably want to know that. It shows what a disturbingly large chunk of the US is just straight delusional and to a certain extent how we got into this situation in the first place. Decades after decades of propaganda and the constant stream of bullshit from places like Fox News and then Facebook has reduced a significant chunk of the US population into idiots that are literally incapable of just observing reality and coming to a reasonable conclusion.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Because very often people vote based on how they feel and that does not always align with the facts

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because for some people it can be cheaper, especially if they moved. So, the poll sheds light on for how many people are their lives more or less expensive even if on average we know most prices went up for most products.

[–] ReluctantlyZen@ani.social 3 points 1 day ago

It does, but that doesn't seem to have been the intend of the poll

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what does IQ have to do with the price of groceries?

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They don’t understand what numbers mean and base their beliefs on how things make them feel.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actually the average is like 103 nowadays im assuming from better nutrition than when IQ tests were invented about 100 years ago

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago

Nope, just slow renormalization.