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This is driving me insane. Please help!

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Use the AltGr key!

AltGr is a key on ISO keyboard, it means Alternative Graphic, and when you hold it and press either [ or { you should get the correct glyph.

Note that you won't see it at first, it waits for the next character and will modify it to include the change, or insert it in front of the next character if the character does not use modifiers.

You can press space after triggering the glyph to just print it separately.

[–] qualia@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Useless info: The backtick (`), forward tick (´), and apostrophe (') are distinct characters.

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 44 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] Triumph@fedia.io 19 points 4 days ago
[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

T́h́é fóŕẃáŕd́ t́íćḱ íś áćt́úáĺĺý ćáĺĺéd́ áćút́é àǹd̀ t̀h̀è b̀àc̀k̀t̀ìc̀k̀ ìs̀ à g̀r̀àv̀è

You can have some fun with these terms.

Also, there are Czech and Slovak oddities with carons where it looks very much like a 9-shaped curly apostrophe (’) on some letters. All the following nouns are common, spelled correctly and the only accent they contain is one caron (ˇ) each. Standard and monospace font are provided for comparison (some monospace fonts, especially pixel ones, actually squish the d-caron to avoid overflow)

1 2 3 4
ľudia loď lodě mať
people ship ships mother
1 2 3 4
ĽUDIA LOĎ LODĚ MAŤ
PEOPLE SHIP SHIPS MOTHER
ľudia   loď   lodě   mať
people  ship  ships  mother

ĽUDIA   LOĎ   LODĚ   MAŤ
PEOPLE  SHIP  SHIPS  MOTHER

Maybe that's why Czech and Slovak never use upper-9 quotes, the primary („“) and secondary (‚‘) quote marks are lower-9 and upper-6.

[–] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is actually quite a pleasing look. Like text that's overgrown by jungle foliage.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It's Zalgo (putting combining diacritics on every letter) but mild and consistent, plus I used native accented characters if available to improve rendering consistency

àèìǹòùẁỳ
áćéǵíj́ḱĺḿńóṕŕśúẃýź

You can test if your text renderer adds combining diacritics as overlays or replaces with native glyphs:

  1. ď (d-caron)
  2. ď (d plus combining caron)
  3. ԁ̌ (Cyrillic ԁ aka "komi de" or "lowercase Ԁ" plus combining caron)

Most renderers will use identical glyphs for #1 and #2 because #3 (using a d-lookalike (hompglyph) to simulate how cheap Czech typewriter users would print lowercase d-caron) is not how d-caron looks in print (the closest ASCII-safe rendition of that, if you still have encoding problems, is d')

[–] Akagigahara@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's some very clean Zalgo. I am mainly familiar with this version H̵̛͕̞̦̰̜͍̰̥̟͆̏͂̌͑ͅä̷͔̟͓̬̯̟͍̭͉͈̮͙̣̯̬͚̞̭̍̀̾͠m̴̡̧̛̝̯̹̗̹̤̲̺̟̥̈̏͊̔̑̍͆̌̀̚͝͝b̴̢̢̫̝̠̗̼̬̻̮̺̭͔̘͑̆̎̚ư̵̧̡̥̙̭̿̈̀̒̐̊͒͑r̷̡̡̲̼̖͎̫̮̜͇̬͌͘g̷̹͍͎̬͕͓͕̐̃̈́̓̆̚͝ẻ̵̡̼̬̥̹͇̭͔̯̉͛̈́̕r̸̮̖̻̮̣̗͚͖̝̂͌̾̓̀̿̔̀͋̈́͌̈́̋͜ which looks… quite messy xD

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Zalgo generators often have a settable range for the random number of diacritics per letter. If it includes 1 and you're (un)lucky, you can get oops-all-acutes. Manually, you can copy the combining character alone (not easy, as you can't usually select it, but you can use web apps or UnicodePad) and paste one after every letter.

Combining diacritics actually include some overlays (s̸l̸a̸s̸h̸e̸s̸, s̶̶t̶̶r̶̶i̶̶k̶̶e̶̶t̶̶h̶̶r̶̶o̶̶u̶̶g̶̶h̶, not⃠, bo⃞x etc.) and allow for vertical text without newlines (although support for characters except aeioucdhmrtvx is spotty). Great for Kahoot names if the host machine runs Windows and displays them in a column, as opposed to overlaid like on Android.

 

ͩͤͭͣͮͥͭͦͫ

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don't have the energy to set one up, or to moderate one, but there should be a community called "GeneralInterestClub" or similar, where interesting but not really super useful info like this would be reposted.

[–] qualia@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There's a few communities in the spectrum you describe: !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world, !mildlyinteresting@lemmy.world; (placeholder, will add more)

[–] Klear@piefed.world 2 points 4 days ago

Seems like this would fall under TIL or maybe mildlyInteresting.

[–] banause@feddit.org 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

YSK: If you set keyboard layouts to thier versiones suffixed with "no dead keys" they don't do that. Instead the character ist rendered immediately.

[–] Lehmuusa@nord.pub 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And then you don't have dead keys.

You press `, then you press e. You get è without needing a specific key for that. The standard Finnish keyboard can do at least the following: ãẽĩõũṏñṽēūȳīōāḡȫǟǖŵêŷûîôâŝĝĥĵẑĉẇėṙṫẏıȯṗȧṡḋḟġḣȷŀżẋċḃṅṁẉẹṛṭỵụịọạṣḍ̣ḥḳḷẓ̣ṿḅṇṃțșȩŗţşḑģḩķļçņẃéŕýúíóṕáśǵj́ḱĺźćǘńḿẁèỳùìòàǜǹm̀ěřťǔǐǒǎšďǧȟǰǩľžčǚň

If I disable deadkeys, I lose all those characters. Many people on this planet have names that require those, and it's a bit stupid not having them. Pressing space every now and then is not that much of work :)

Oh, and indeed: On the Finnish keyboard ~ is a deadkey. You get it by pressing the "^~ key together with AltGr, then pressing Space.

[–] banause@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I did not state anything different, nor did I suggest to switch to a "no dead key layout." It's an option that might be a consideration for individuals.

[–] SavinDWhales@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I switched to a US-ANSI layout for work and chose the "no dead key" version on my Mac, as you can either

  • Use the option key as a modifier for the most common version (so option-u is ú, option-y is ü, I think)
  • Long press the key and Mac OS will show you all alternates which you can then choose with a number key (so hold u and press 2 will give you ü as well)

Dunno if the long press can be replicated on Linux, but I would like to be able to use this system in both worlds...

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

Interesting!

I have wondered about that!

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Thank you! I will give it a try. Hitting the key than spacebar works in Firefox and Signal but not much else.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] daggermoon@piefed.world -1 points 4 days ago

Don't be that person.

[–] Lehmuusa@nord.pub 1 points 4 days ago

Where does it not?!