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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And you think these assholes won't just raze that stuff without a care in the world? Because they will. After that they'll be sued which will end with a small slap on the hand, combined with "oh you!" and that's it

It'll relatively cost you more to buy that tree and plant it, than it'll cost them to just ignore all that

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Except no - starting elderberry shrubs is relatively easy. Not like scattering the berries on the ground, but sticking cuttings a couple inches into damp or wet ground in late fall works very well, with very good odds that they'll be big enough to bear fruit in a year. It's also very cheap if you have access to an existing tree.

Apparently you missed this in the research I'm sure you did before commenting on the cost, and strangely the people upvoting you seem to be making the same mistake. Probably AI's fault.

[–] TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody's missing how easy these are to plant.

The fucks planting data centres don't give a fuck though. The guy in the white house does not give a fuck. They'll bulldoze you and these plants for a nickel.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Well that assumes they get away with it, and the irrefutable doomsday gospel seems to be that corps will bulldoze the world no matter what, even if it's illegal, therefore the endangered species tactic flat out won't work, because nothing will work, because they're invincible. But if that's the case I don't know why we're even starting these conversations.

[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They are definitely going to either remove the Endangered Species Act entirely or just slowly keep dropping species from the list as and when it becomes convenient honestly

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They’re literally shooting people in the head in the street. If someone chained themselves to a tree to stop construction they’d just saw the person in half. Hasn’t been a single consequence yet

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, well in that case we should all just give up. Stop trying, people! It's already over!

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

Oh you misunderstand, I’m saying shoot first

[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still doesn't make him wrong. They will ignore it and receive little to no consequence. I also don't understand the hostility, infact it fits the "erm actually" meme so well I suspect trolling.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

Not sure what you mean by trolling but the hostility is toward the false expertise.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I think the word "relatively" in the previous comment is doing some heavy lifting.

If you are going to spend a few hours of your limited free time to plant the shrubs, even if the materials and transportation are free to you, compare that with the relative cost of a small environmental fine to a trillion dollar company building a billion dollar data center.

The people at the top might not even realize anything happened, if anything even does happen.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I guess the important thing is to treat hypothetical outcomes as certainties and base debates on them.

[–] Darkonion@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

That's my favourite statement of the day. I'm lucky I'd put my drink down or there'd be a mess everywhere.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

It'll relatively cost you more to buy that tree and plant it, than it'll cost them to just ignore all that

This is the unfortunate reality

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

No shit. This post is instructions on how to get an Executive Order named after you.