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American libertarianism is incoherent. They're just Republicans who don't go to church and smoke dope.
American libertarianism is interely coherent. Religious nutjobs and large business owners want state power to go away because churches and corporations will gain that power.
I'd say there's a difference in the libertarianism of the charlatans and their marks. One is simply a facade for technocratic fascism, the other is an incoherent fantasy that thinks capitalism will create a utopia if we just stop regulating it.
Orchids feed on a micorrhizal fungus, which grows on the bark of certain trees. While it might be considered symbiotic, the orchid requires the trees it grows on to produce the fungus. The tree stays healthier due to orchids, however the orchids have no function nor biological reason or initiative to limit the growth of the fungus. The more fungus that can thrive within the tree will be beneficial to the orchids. Because of this dynamic the eventual death of the tree, due to the fungus that feeds the orchids, will allow the orchids to thrive to the point of propagation, spreading their seeds in the soil to reach the surrounding trees, which have a high probability of having the required fungus for them to feed. And this the process of death and rebirth continues from tree to tree, but the same line of orchids continue by jumping from corpse to corpse.
This comment is not about orchids.
Is there another kind?
Yes, and we call ourselves Anarchists or left libertarians because the right specifically and intentionally stole that term
Exactly this. And even when I do use the term libertarian. I make sure to express little l versus Big L Libertarianism explicitly. Big L Libertarianism is simply a noun randomly applied to something. And doesn't mean anything more than the people in charge want it to mean. Like big C Communism versus little c communism. Totally different things.
Hell the man who coined the term and defined libertarianism. Explicitly fought against most of the type who profess to be big L Libertarians today.
and we support not voting and the system collapses, so republicans get elected
Wait.
That's simply not true. I'm not a large, and therefore don't pretend to live in a system I don't. This is the system that I live in, and I have to do everything possible to reduce harm to others, which includes voting. Maybe try educating yourself?
Used to be. Now the only halfway decent libertarians label themselves anarchists.
Yeah. All jokes aside but USian Libertarians are different to, for example, European Libertarians.
Being “socially liberal” has different parameters outside the US.