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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am confused by what you are saying. There have been several global powers that have come and gone since the 6th century, the Ottoman Empire for instance.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yet Turkiye remains. I am saying the government is not the nation. That means that no matter what happens, America will remain.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Right but so does Russia so I’m not sure why you brought up the USSR.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The USSR was so much more than just Russia. That legacy is part of why Russia is invading Ukraine. Again.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

…and the Ottoman Empire was more than just Turkey. At one point it spanned from the borders of Italy all the way around the Mediterranean to modern day Algeria.

By your logic then America won’t survive because like the Soviet Union it’s just a federal system of constituent parts that are highly unlikely to participate in a mass government together again.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

calling it "turkiye" makes me question your motives

[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

... Is that not the name of the country? Every source I can find online seems to indicate that's the preferred nomenclature now. Or does this have some problematic connotation that google isn't showing me?

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's actually supposed to be Türkiye, due to Turkey's request to be called like that in English by international entities: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61671913

I neither know why ordinary people would call it like that, since Turkey is still practically the usual name (more recognisable, easier to write and pronounce), nor why calling it Türkiye anyway would be suspicious.

[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I just assumed they couldn't type the u with umlauts but wanted to use the current name; and I just really want to know why that other guy thinks that confers "questionable motives".

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Tbh, that kinda does make more sense... still a weird complaint though.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 days ago

the name of the country in english is "turkey", insisting on people changing what it's called in other languages is nationalist propaganda from the Erdoğan government.

It's like if germany suddenly decided everyone has to call it "Deutschland", it's obviously silly and frankly kinda offensive. You only get to make such requests if you've suffered colonialism and oppression by other countries, which turkey most certainly has not (they have been the colonizer and oppressor).