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I don't think that description applies to either of those states
Ukraine was just minding its own business, slaughtering 13,000 ethnic Russians in the Donbas when giant meany Putler decided to invade for no reason!
listen bub, history began when i started paying attention and NOT A MOMENT SOONER
It's wild someone would even boil down something as complicated as international politics down to "you see, the country is like a little guy, and it WANTS things" let alone leaving out the exact and specific reasons why both of those wars started and what each side hopes to achieve in their outcome.
It's not even simplification, when you go down to that level and point out that Ukraine is consistently in the same team as Israel they have instant crashout.
I do vaguely remember there were tensions between Ukraine and the Zionist entity around 2024, mainly because Amerikkka was giving more artillery shells to Israel instead
That was just a small tantrum of a dog begging for scraps from their master, and in fact it was confirmation that UA and Isn'treal are in the same team.
Reasons are for real countries like the USAEvery other country is weird and foreignOther countries are exotic; they do things for reasons we cannot understand. Thus, bomb them.
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I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I think it's understandable enough and the bigger problem is that no country "just wants to mind their own business". Literally not a single one, whether we favor what the country does or not.
Or another way to think about it: having borders and ports instantly means "minding your own business" implies minding other countries' business.
Dogs of the US empire
Except these dinguses aren't even anti-war (as the northwest quadrant is labeled), they just aren't willing to question, let alone separate themselves from the propaganda machine that has made them feel good and righteous about being on Team Ukraine fighting against Sauron-Putler.
It's understandable to think Russia just started the war in 2022 out of nowhere if you lived on the regular internet this whole time and had nothing but mainstream liberal sources. If this was Instagram or a more "normie" website, for lack of a better term, I'd be totally empathetic with libs who think Ukraine and Palestine are comparable. But being so incurious as to still believe that's the only version of events despite being on Lemmy, where it's pretty easy to spend 5 minutes reading what the "tankies" have to say and understand there's a different historical narrative where the war started in 2015, is just so sad.
The war started in 2014 when Russia first invaded. It did blossom up into a far bigger conflict in 2022 though.
You're right that it was in 2014 not 2015 as I said in my comment, but to say that Russia "first invaded" and started the war then is also incorrect. The ethnic Russians in Crimea who asked for Russia to intervene were responding to the Euromaidan coup which was a significant escalation from the far right in Ukraine. If there had been no intervention from Russia there would probably have been massacres of ethnic Russians.
you realize that the CIA-backed nazi coup occurred before the Russian invasion right? Check your timeline. The first shot was done by NATO.