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[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

they also last decades and are cheap to run with extremely low carbon emissions

[–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Any source for this significant claim?

The German ministry for Safety of nuclear energy (BASE) published an official statement that nuclear energy is not only unsafe, but also way too expensive:

https://www.base.bund.de/shareddocs/faktencheck/base/de/atomstrom-alternative-energiequellen-kosten.html

There are studies by the Deutsches Insitut für Wirtschaftsforschung (DIW, German Institute of Economic Research) that show significant higher costs per kWh than other power sources:

https://www.diw.de/de/diw_01.c.867887.de/publikationen/wochenberichte/2023_10_1/ausbau_von_kernkraftwerken_entbehrt_technischer_und_oekonomischer_grundlagen.html

https://www.diw.de/de/diw_01.c.670481.de/publikationen/wochenberichte/2019_30_1/zu_teuer_und_gefaehrlich__atomkraft_ist_keine_option_fuer_eine_klimafreundliche_energieversorgung.html

At my company, we work together with the Gesellschaft für Endlagerung (BGE). These guys are responsible to find safe long time storage for nuclear waste. Spoiler: as of now, there is no such thing as safe long time storage.

The German energy provider Enbw claims costs per kWh to be as high as 0.49€ for nuclear energy, which is ridiculous high. And they did not even factor in the high costs of safe long time storage!

[–] crimson_iris@piefed.social 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

These guys are responsible to find safe long time storage for nuclear waste. Spoiler: as of now, there is no such thing as safe long time storage.

What do they say about Onkalo ?

[–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing, because they have only space for 6500 t high-level nuclear waste which is already reserved for Finnish nuclear waste, whereas Germany has like 17.000 t.

[–] crimson_iris@piefed.social 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

But with regards to the "no such thing as safe long term storage" comment?

[–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 17 hours ago

Now I get what you mean. I should have phrased this better. I meant "no such thing as safe long term storage [could be determined in Germany yet]". Which means, as of today, they could not find a safe location in Germany to build such a storage facility like Finland did.

Germany is densely populated and the ground/earth is mostly unsuited for long time storage.