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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thats the whole point of crypto. Anyone can use it for anything, with anyone else, without needing a third party to trust. You can buy weapons, medicine, drugs, illegally trade, pay for a boat ride out of your country, buy a pizza, buy hrt, whatever. So long as both parties believe it has value.

Its very similar to cash. Cash can make a stripper "like" me, pay for a dinner party, provide an untaxxed tip, or buy drugs all equally effectively.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

without needing a third party to trust

OMG! Even after the POTUS stole billions from you, crypto-bros still think a bloated spreadsheet program can protect you from the government.

The only people who understand crypto are the ones who don't use it, and criminals.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 5 points 18 hours ago

Nothing in the world can protect you from what the government does with the money we already gave it. We've ceded all control over it. Crypto can't do a damn thing there and even makes it harder to claw the money back.

What crypto can do is keep anyone from seizing the money you still control, and it can ensure nobody prevents you from transacting over anything at all. That means no getting screwed by a bank run, no having your funds seized by authoritarian governments, and nobody can exclude you from the payment network you depend on for daily life, no being excluded from digital payments and banking because you lack sufficient documentation or banks find your community to not be worth the effort. I understand not everybody needs that, as many North Americans and Europeans don't, but that doesn't mean it's devoid if value for everyone. And if your government turns too harshly to authoritarians, there may come a day where you learn to appreciate those things.

[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 21 hours ago

I dunno about you but, I would rather not have the government know about my finances considering the fact that they had no problem arming fascists terror-squads on their own soil.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You do realize there are other cryptos that weren't just hype scams? Nobody was using trump or melania coin to buy drugs on the internet.

[–] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Eventually, pretty much anyone using crypto needs an exchange for real money. No matter how perfect the blockchain itself operates, users need to rely on third party exchanges as on- and off ramps. So they can only rely on the crypto to the extent the government enables (and regulates) trustworthy exchanges. Yea, I guess if you are a drug lord or rogue authoritarian state, it’s still your best bet. Or if you live in a country where crypto exchanges are not a lot worse than banks in terms of security and consumer protection. But in the US, for a legitimate use, I don’t think it’s a reasonable idea to use crypto. And I think that says something about those who use it at massive scale.

[–] Redjard@reddthat.com 1 points 3 hours ago

You can't regulate away exchanges for the same reason you can't regulate away black markets.
If you wanna buy say transitioning medicine in russia, you wanna use Monero for anonymity, and you exchange it through a "p2p exchange". Which are what formed after many countries banned Monero entirely. "p2p exchange" is just a protocol where you can "trade" with random joe schmo, but insured. So you end up just wiring some random regular person money and they give you Monero. Or on the inverse you get wired money and give someone your Monero.

I.e. you exchange Monero with random people without any exchange. Good look regulating that.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You can treat your crypto just like every other currency. When a country makes a trade for USD, they usually don't immediately convert that USD into their native currency, instead they hold on to it and use it to buy something in exchange for their USD. The same can be done with crypto, get paid in BTC, pay the next country in BTC. On an individual scale it makes more sense to be converting currencies, like if i lived in the USA but was remote working in europe and paid in pounds, those pounds would be pretty much useless to me without exchanging, but as country, I could stash those pounds and continue using them for trade. This is probably what Iran is doing, they likely have several clients willing to trade in crypto.

In this sense its just like handing over raw cash. The bank doesn't need to be involved for me to pay my neighbor to shovel my driveway if i give him cash, then he can pay another neighbor that same cash to mow his lawn in a few months. With the cash there is no third party involved in the transactions, unlike say a credit card or bank transfer.

All we have is the promise from the government that the cash is worth something. In crypto's case, its value is overall determined by its users, albeit still quite volatile and unregulated.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

albeit still quite volatile and unregulated.

which makes it useless as currency

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Evidently not if this meme is a true and both Iran and the USA are trading it.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

okay so when you come across a word you don't understand (like currency), you should look it up

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Currency

1 a : circulation as a medium of exchange

b : general use, acceptance, or prevalence a story gaining currency

c : the quality or state of being current : currentness needed to check the accuracy and currency of the information

2 a : something (such as coins, treasury notes, and banknotes) that is in circulation as a medium of exchange

b : paper money in circulation

c : a common article for bartering Furs were once used as currency.

d : a medium of verbal or intellectual expression … neither side possessed any currency but clichés … —Jan Struther

Not a single mention of stability or regulation. What is mentioned is medium of exchange which is exactly what is happening in both scenarios of the meme.