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[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And yet each indentation could hold something, like cheese or a kitten, so each indentation in functionally different from a smooth surface.

Deforming a shape changes it, thus topology is a special case of specifically ignoring most aspects of a shape.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But more importantly, calling any indentation a "hole" is a case of specifically ignoring the special significance of actual holes. You can't pass through an indentation.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Guess I can't dig holes either

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure you can, they just gotta come out the other side. Otherwise it's just a fancy divot

[–] sauerkrautsaul@lemmus.org -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ill put a fancy divot in yah dome wit my 9 millie brah

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Watch out, we got a badass over here

[–] sauerkrautsaul@lemmus.org 1 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

please dont be mean I was trying to be gangsta ok

im white and in my 40s

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 10 hours ago

There's a Weird Al song about you. Or three.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Me, too, which is why I don't say silly things like that

[–] sauerkrautsaul@lemmus.org 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

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edit: spelling (of course)

[–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

Shame on you for wanting to have fun in a meme post! Shame, I say!

[–] aMockTie@piefed.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you were to tell an average English speaker that you were going to dig an indentation, chances are high that they would misinterpret your meaning.

On the other hand, if you told them that you were going to dig a "blind hole," I imagine they would have a much better understanding of your meaning and you would still be technically correct.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's part of why I try not to talk to average English speakers

[–] aMockTie@piefed.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Haha fair enough

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That's why we have the compound word "through-hole".

90% of important parts on living things are pockets and manipulations of surface area, two things completely ignored by topology. Topology is interesting mathematically, and has meaning for traversal and knot problems, but it's not really useful to describe reality.

[–] zeca@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

but it's not really useful to describe reality.

Skill issue

really

[–] myslsl@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

but it's not really useful to describe reality.

This is just not true.

What topology does for people practically, is it allows them to do a rough kind of geometric reasoning in a wide variety of cases. Further, the geometric notions defined via topology subsume many of the more intuitive notions you might already know of from the number line or the plane.

For example, continuity of functions, convergence of sequences, interiors and boundaries of sets, connectedness and many other things are inherently topological notions that any person who has taken a typical calculus sequence should have some intuitive idea of.

One of the biggest difference between actual pure topology and analysis is that analysis is just done in the context of really nice types of topological spaces called metric spaces in which notions of distance are available.

Any time people are using results of calculus in the sciences, under the hood they are using details about topology on R^n.

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

Topology is immensely useful to describe reality.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That's why we have a diverse set of words such as "divot," "indentation," "pit," "well," and so much more!

Topology is a component of the language called "mathematics" we use to understand, describe, and model reality in concrete terms.