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Hang in their buddy. The damage to the USA is enormous, but it can be repaired in ten, twelve years.
I honestly don't think it can. They would have to elect probably three sensible presidents in a row, and that's really not in the cards.
They’re never more than 4 years away from electing another Trump. Ever.
It’s done. They need to show 100 years of good faith before I’d consider trusting them, and I’ll be dead by then
Alternatively, we need to elect a sensible Congress that actually flexes it's muscles in the areas it's in charge of in addition to a sensible figurehead
And keep electing that Congress during the next midterms.
The main issue regarding that is not just the insane president. It's the voters.
How can the EU trust Americans not to vote in another openly fascist president? Everyone saw his first presidency and heard everything he said he would do.
How can we trust the US population again?
Would it help if it came out down the line that he had Musk fuck with the voting machines? I'm still not convinced everything was above the board for the last election.
Winning every single swing state in a rematch election just reeks of foul play.
It would, and I'm surprised nothing came from Trumps statements about Musk and the computers. I thought the Americans would definitely challenge the outcome solely on that comment but 🤷
I know there's plenty of protests on going across the US, but that so many of the voters still just accept when the president breaks the law is still adding to the trust issue. I mean, if the party I voted for behaved in the same way I would feel betrayed and embarrassed, and would have me on the barricades next morning demanding their resignation
The way he overperformed in basically every state make manipulation unlikely. We're talking about a system of 50 state run elections that all have slightly different systems, all of which would require considerable effort to corrupt. Election meddling would at best flip a few states, and Trump won by a bigger margin than that.
Plus, Musk and Trump's goons aren't the geniuses who can pull off something like that. Their incompetency running the government makes it even less likely that they cheated. Thinking they cheated is just a distraction from realizing how effective their message was and how shitty the Democrat's were. They lost fair and square, and they cannot rely on their enemy to be the only reason to vote for them.
The vast majority of the US population is still going along with him with nary a peep, if he didn't have the support the elections implied, I'd expect way more pushback.
As a European, I don't think I could trust the US even after ten to twelve years.
It's gonna take all MAGAites and fascists dying and/or turning back to normal and then a decade on top of that, before I'm even gonna trust anything there. And a lot of reform.
Hell, my grandfather refused to set any step into Germany after the war, never for all the 80 years after that period he lived through as a young adult.
As an American we need reeducation camps. A third of the population is literally not fit for society and isn't going to just change overnight. I do not know how to fix it.
I think our isolation on a global stage is a big issue. On top of all the other issues these freaks have, they know nothing about other countries other than vague notions or Europe being the gay weak place.
In the meantime, people in the US will be exposed to large amounts of pollution as the EPA rolls back rules, more people will die of preventable diseases due to vaccine guidance, healthcare being too expensive to use, and a brain drain of doctors, while the people get screwed over by corporations because consumer protections disappear, trucks get bigger and deadlier, the economy being shit due to deteriorated foreign relationships, over policing by violent psychopaths with incentives to fill private prisons, the supreme court decisions and jackasses that will stick around for much longer than a dozen years, and mass shootings continue to not even be national news. And that's all going to get fixed in a few years while facing a far right headwind? I've got my doubts.
it mostly definitely cannot lmao. the current catastrophe is the result of several decades of compounding issues. The only way things could be fixed that quickly is a revolution.
Every day adds a year.
!remindme in 2600 CE or so
I think the word you were looking for was "decades".
You're an order of magnitude off. It's gonna take generations to undo this Gordian fucking knot.
That's less than 2 presidents. We haven't even successfully unfucked what Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, or Obama did. How can you be so sure about this when there is zero evidence? Not even all the Supreme Court will be gone by then.
It's been a downward spiral for at least 400 years.