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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 129 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

From my understanding, all the locals where this happened think this dude is a colossal dumbass.

I think his legacy is slowly changing though, and people are less impressed by his antics today than when it happened.

[–] mech@feddit.org 117 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

He wasn't a dumbass, he was just suicidal.
He first left his privileged life, then his family and friends, then society. Typical steps of a suicidal person preparing for the end.
If he actually wanted to keep living, he could have left the bus and simply walked back, 3 days before his provisions ran out (it takes 6 hours to get to the trailhead).
But he stayed, even though he didn't have the skills to live off the land. He accepted death, until it came close, then he regretted his decision and tried to get out but it was too late.

[–] themaninblack@lemmy.world 37 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

To me, this is the simplest and most plausible explanation.

Somewhat related but it’s odd to me how many people I’ve met that feel so strongly negatively about him. Maybe as a herd instinct to warn others?

He wasn’t exceptionally selfish as he had no serious responsibilities.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 47 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

On June 18, 2020, various government agencies coordinated with an Alaska Army National Guard training mission to remove the bus, deemed a public safety issue after at least 15 people had to be rescued and at least two people died while attempting to cross the Teklanika River to reach the bus.[

This BS is part of the reason, I think. Not only is he a dumbass, but he inspires other dumbasses to be the best dumbass they can.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Natural selection working as intended?

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago

Several Darwin Awards nominees

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

stupid is as stupid does

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure the hate is directed at him, but at people glorifying him

[–] hraegsvelmir@ani.social 2 points 53 minutes ago

Yeah, I haven't read his book and have no strong opinions on him one way or another, but when the book came out, I remember him being presented to us as if he were some sort of spiritual or philosophical luminary to emulate, and it's always rubbed me the wrong way.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 19 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I think he was stranded because of a flooded river though? From memory there was a reason he couldn't just walk out.

[–] mech@feddit.org 53 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

The reason was him refusing to bring a map, which would have shown a bridge over the river less than a mile away.
And not scouting out his environment either, or even trying a detour along the river, or improvising a raft....

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

i'm too lazy to look into, but did he actually starve starve to death or was there some medical complication? it takes a long time to starve to death

[–] mech@feddit.org 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

His emaciated decomposing body was found by hunters. Time of death couldn't be determined accurately.
The last 4 entries in his diary were just a date and a dash (-).
He had a bag of plant seeds with him that contained a toxin which causes paralysis.
His diary contained entries documenting his dwindling food reserves and unsuccessful hunting attempts.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I read that hypothetically consuming the plant (which resembled a nontoxic look alike) could have made it so he was too weak to scavenge what he needed to survive. He could have survived otherwise. He was certainly gambling with his life being out there alone, but I read the claims of him being totally unprepared were exaggerated.

[–] mech@feddit.org 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

The dude who dropped him off at the trailhead was so concerned due to his lacking gear, he first tried to convince him to call it off multiple times, then offered to drive him all the way to Anchorage and buy better gear from his own wallet.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Goodness [rural] people can be angels

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

And I think also shared what food he had. Yeah, the kid was under prepared for sure, but apparently he had studied the food sources and terrain somewhat. He got unlucky. Not being prepared for unlucky is very very dumb. But most people I hear mad about this think he was zero prepared

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 12 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, that'll do it.

[–] BartyDeCanter 1 points 11 minutes ago

Privileged is a complicated term for his life. On one hand, yes from the outside, and especially as presented in the movie, it seems like he had a typically idyllic upper middle class life. But if you do any digging into it, you find out that his father was an extremely volatile, violent abuser and his mom wasn’t much better. That sort of childhood trauma is a hell of a thing and absolutely impacts someone’s mental state.