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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Nebraska’s Republican Gov. Jim Pillen on Wednesday signed an executive order strictly defining a person’s sex.

The order notably does not use the term “transgender,” although it appears directed at limiting transgender access to certain public spaces. It orders state agencies to define “female” and “male” as a person’s sex assigned at birth.

“It is common sense that men do not belong in women’s only spaces,” Pillen said in a statement. “As Governor, it is my duty to protect our kids and women’s athletics, which means providing single-sex spaces for women’s sports, bathrooms, and changing rooms.”

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[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 87 points 11 months ago

I still don't understand what business the government has defining sex. How is that in any way the government's job?? If anything, it could be up to medical organizations, such as the AMA, if they had sound arguments. But, the government? I really try to at least understand everyone's logic even if I don't agree with them, but this is just so insane. I don't get it.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

That’s because there is no logic, the people that want the government to define sex have a purely emotional reaction to the very existence of trans people… and most things that don’t align with their narrow life experience and worldview

[-] ayaya@lemdro.id 8 points 11 months ago

Not that I agree with what is happening but they are defining it in legal terms, which is absolutely their job. A simple example might be killing someone is just killing someone, and the government defines what is murder and what is manslaughter.

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I understand the point of defining a criminal act, but being a sex isn't criminal. It's being a human.

[-] ayaya@lemdro.id 4 points 11 months ago

Maybe that was a bad example to use, that is my bad. It was just the first thing I thought of. The government needs to define all sorts of things, not just criminal acts. You say it's being human. They even define what a human is.. Laws have to be written in such a way as to include explicit definitons so they can be enforced without loopholes. (Or in some cases create loopholes like with the rich and taxes)

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago

Where you get your law degree?

[-] ayaya@lemdro.id 3 points 11 months ago

Are you implying it requires a law degree to understand that the government defines what terms mean for legal purposes? If you don't understand that you have a lot more to worry about than my certifications.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's sarcasm. Obviously you didn't study law.

The fact that laws often define terms does not justify a law defining sex or gender. There's nothing implicit to concepts of positive law or legislative authority that require legal definitions of gender.

There are so few occasions in law where it's not a violation of equal protection to discriminate on the basis of gender that there really is almost zero need for law to define it.

Most of those rare occasions are related to reproduction, and even then there's no inherent reason to define genders, the law could just refer to pregnancy or pregnant persons.

You would have learned all about this if you had studied law. I'm sure they must have these concepts where you're from.

https://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment14/annotation06.html

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