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Country that put backdoors into Cisco routers to spy on world bans foreign routers
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Well no, they tend to copy a lot from China these days.
except badly.
Or don't even try too. Wish they tried to copy infrastructure improvements or high speed rail. All we get is more money to corporations to do absolutely nothing
i have my frustration with the Chinese state appartus, but the one thing you can't say about them is that they're incompetent.
we can get into talks about whether or not the incompetence the modern american governance mechanisms are illusory in service of kleptocracy or not, but ultimately, the American state apparatus is following the same pattern of dynastic rise and fall you see across the nothern hemisphere for the last 16000 years.
i just hope that for FUCKING once a group will rehash the salt and iron debates and pick salt, like GODDAMMIT why always with the imperialism!?!?
Wealth. That's why. It's money. Simple greed. That is why iron. That is why Imperialism
First as a tragedy, then as a farce.
I’m starting to believe a lot of the bad we hear about China is at best overblown and at worst completely fucking made up.
Remember all the articles predicting their doom because they built “ghost cities” and “trains to nowhere” and now they’re all actual cities with employed populations and there is high speed rail everywhere?
Yeah since 9/11 we’ve only had liars in charge seeing how much they can milk all of us, and apparently America really does have great ties because they’re still honkin and we’re still letting em.
Anyway since we can’t tell what’s true and what’s a lie thanks to the “state dept” propaganda I’m just gonna go ahead and say that the most advanced country on earth is probably way ahead of the USA.
It‘s a dictatorship without basic human rights. If you really think ICE is bad then imagine ICE 10 times bigger and several decades older and more refined. That‘s the Chinese state for you. The US is on it‘s way there. That‘s why we criticize them.
I also don‘t see a single aspect where China is ahead of literally everyone else. They have quantity and more and more often people seem to think that means innovation. Like „Sure, university X has the most advanced robots but China is producing 20 different models on a larger scale that are almost as good!“. But they‘re not better, though. China has quality too, yes. But nothing no one else has. Really, I cannot think of a single technology where some institute on the globe isn‘t at least on par with what China is doing. Being the world factory they are often the first to have things largely available to the global market but they‘re never the first to do something.
There is a reason everyone is afraid of industrial espionage from China. It’s because they don‘t really innovate but they will mass produce your innovation before you know it.
There are also ghost cities that basically got demolished, like dozens of skyscrapers one after the other.
Two counties can be bad at the same time, not everything has to be nalck and white. China can suck also when the US sucks. China can even suck despite doing a lot of cool things.
At least they are trying to solve problems for their people. I'm okay with some ideas failing if they keep working at solutions.
Uh oh...
https://youtu.be/HwhB5uCaj3Y
They don't copy the part where they execute billionaires, unfortunately https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-07-23/china-executes-14-billionaires-in-8-years-culture-news-reports
Although, if you're an influential billionaire you don't get executed but get disappeared for some time, like jack ma, giving the general feeling that they want to control billionaires and not just get rid of them