- The !asklemmy@lemmy.ml thread: https://lemmy.ml/post/45040130
- The !worldnews@lemmy.ml thread https://lemmy.ml/post/45067752
- The most wretched one, the lemmy.world thread https://lemmy.world/post/44762557
Fill in your lib bingo cards (they are all free spaces) its all on display (slightly) paraphrasing:
- slavery wasnt that bad, ever heard of the HOLOCAUST? The genocide created solely to eradicate jews and did not target anyone else that mattered^[https://lemmy.ml/post/45040130/24779361]
- "Pointless" semantic squabbling (the point is ofcourse to draw attention away from the topic at hand)^[https://lemmy.ml/post/45067752/24791184]
- but china^[https://lemmy.ml/post/45040130/24787830]
- the west is actually taking a stand against oppression olympics^[https://lemmy.ml/post/45040130/24776209]
- the west are actually the ones who care about international law^[https://lemmy.ml/post/45067752/24792260] (said by a german
) - german claims to be part of a non-slaver country^[https://lemmy.world/post/44762557/22884230]
- Holodomor^[https://lemmy.ml/post/45040130/24776247] china famine^[https://lemmy.ml/post/45040130/24787772] were as bad as the holocaust and the trans-atlantic slave trade
- black people arent that innocent either sweetey^[https://lemmy.world/post/44762557/22877835] ^[https://lemmy.ml/post/45040130/24787388] ^[https://lemmy.world/post/44762557/22889476]
- This is only about money^[https://lemmy.ml/post/45040130/24783498]
- I didn't do it, so I shouldn't pay reparations^[https://lemmy.world/post/44762557/22876585]
- slavery is just human nature^[https://lemmy.ml/post/45035509/24779781] ^[https://lemmy.world/post/44762557/22882458] and we have more important things rn^[https://lemmy.ml/post/45040130/24790003]
- this is ancient history and not really all that relevant now^[https://lemmy.world/post/44762557/22888155]
out in full force
If Hitler had just stuck to killing nonwhites there would be a statue of him in every square in Europe
western liberals have absolutely zero problems with hitler murdering domestic and foreign communists, as well waging genocidal warfare on the peoples of the ussr. in fact, it gets celebrated more and more openly.
the slavic or romani victims or the political prisoners who suffered the same or even worse abuses in the same camps by the same fascist parasites as the jews don't get to be immortalized in western literature or film or music or other arts.
despite the fact, that racism against slavic peoples was (read: is) at the very core of hitlerite ideology, westerners never as much as acknowledge it. instead, they celebrate as thousands, if not millions of slavic people die in a conflict caused by western capital. instead of at least feeling shame for flooding all of those countries with blood, they instead have been spreading hatred and harmful stereotypes to such an extent that they don't even register doing it anymore. i don't even want to mention their hideous lies about the red army.
despite the fact, that the hitlerites successfully exterminated essentially all of the romani population throughout much of western and central europe and came dangerously close to reaching this goal in eastern europe, anti-romani racism seems now to be just as common as life itself.
the role of communists resisting the hitlerite tyranny is consistently played down, if not outright ignored, with some reactionarys even growing brazen enough to call them traitors. the goal is to portray communism as something foreign, from which "the nation" needs to be protected.
the average european zionazi is thus trained from birth to never admit that slavs and communists, not jews, were the primary victims of nazism, both in numbers as well as chronologically.
tl;dr:
Eurolibs have been mask off since at least 2016, when I first had one tell me to my face that Hitler would've been a "great man of history" if he didn't go after the Jews. More and more they are doing the thing where they separate Nazi Germany from Hitler to praise the genocidal German armies fighting ebil 1984 gommulism in Eastern Europe before Hitler ruined everything by doing the Holocaust (single-handedly, apparently).
I noticed this when I visited the US Space & Rocket center in Huntsville AL several years ago. It largely commemorates the Apollo program which was designed and operated by several Nazis including Werner von Braun. However in all the displays, the word Nazi only appears once, in direct relation to Hitler. Everyone else was just a "German soldier" etc.
Pretty disgusting but a clear result of someone trying to avoid the "are we the baddies?" thought despite embracing and celebrating Nazis and Nazi shit.
A more humorous aside but they have some ridiculous story about why and how von Braun surrendered to the US rather than USSR, basically saying that he imagined at the end of WWII that the US would offer better funding for his research.
Yes I'm sure that was it, and not the risk of being held accountable for being a Nazi by the USSR. Dude was a fucking rat but they can't acknowledge that.
He was in the same position as Oscar Schindler but instead of helping people escape or avoid being killed, he gleefully chose to profit from their slave labor. That's why the Nuremberg Defense didn't work. We have plenty of examples of people who resisted. Everyone else was an accomplice who knew about what was happening and decided the money was worth it.
I had a German neighbour claim that "Hitler was a smart leader" and that the Syrian refugees entering Europe at the time were "not real refugees, unlike us who escaped communist east germany"
It is worth mentioning that this was a popular stance in West Germany for basically its whole existence.
This is your brain on great man theory
I think it would be difficult to establish that communists were a greater target when most of the communists killed would have probably also been killed if they were liberal non-whites in a country invaded by Germany (and many in the USSR were). See all the massacres in Poland, for example.
c.f. Churchill
In the eyes of the european powers his only unforgiveable crime was failing to destroy the USSR