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How we know this isn't the original team: They would never imply cops have ever been "in"
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...i know disco elysium is highly lauded, but i just can't bring myself to indulge police fetishism, so i'll probably never play it...
I don't think anything in that game fetishizes police
If you're talking a humiliation fetish, it's definitely police fetishism
Do you think Les Miserables is .about how prisons are cool because one of the main characters is a prison guard?
Edit:
One battle after another has a guard of a concentration camp in it, so I hope you didn't watch that.
Fifth element has a charismatic depiction of an evil capitalist, that's bad.
Sinners shows the Clan and I remember it as if one of the Clan guys seems kind of chill on the first meeting, that's too bad.
Lolita isn't about how cool it is to be a pedophile.
Frankenstein isn't about how awesome it is to be a shitty dad.
Richard the III isn't about how cool it is to lie and cheat and kill your friends and family.
Engaging on a surface-level with text of "what profession does this character have?" isn't a good way of going about the world, your politics or sharpening your mind.
Actually, Fifth Element is bad because it was directed by a pedophile who multiple women have accused of SA.
i assume there are "javert was right" weirdos?
Anything is possible, chuds love starship troopers and jarhead. I'm personally a bit of a Richard III was misunderstood-weirdo.
Edit: I seriously dream of seeing a version of Richard III that focuses in on his body dysmorphia, his weird misogyny and how his mother has hated him from birth (maybe, there's so many ways to read their relationship. The way she talks to him at the end, the way she mistrusts him... Was it always like this, or is it a result of his actions? What came first?)
There's some cool Norman Bates story there. The guy is physically capable enough to be a great warrior, he can seduce the widow of a man he killed, yet he's apparently so ugly that no woman could ever love him - even just physically. Despite the fact he's rich as fuck and brother to the king.
He's charming as hell, but says noone could be his friend. He's a great administrator, but talks about how he couldn't be. There's such an interesting thing going on with him, and I've never seen it dealt with in a way that scratched the itch. The Ian McKellen movie is great, but he's a villain there, not some sad creature or abandoned kid, which I think he could be. That play is so good.
I mean, Richard the 3rd the real guy was slandered fucking hard by the play. Shakespeare was motivated in many was to shit talk the ancestors of non-Tudor royalty
Like the post said, it's the opposite. The closest thing is that your cop partner Kim is awesome (not you though), really patient considering the BS he watches you do, and part of the homosexual underground. And you can (sort of) specialise in reading his and the few other cops' thoughts.
Some people think it does fetishize communism, but I think it critiques enough too.
Kim is meant to be a likeable character but he's definitely not praise of the police. He's written to be at least complicit in the various crimes of the police.
But not really past the point of what you get from a lot of copaganda.
Playing a fascism playthrough is also an excellent indictment of Kim. He's still there. Sure he might tell you off, but he's still there. He doesn't stop you, he doesn't stop being a cop. If you shoot cunoesse, Kim lets you.
I haven't done the fascist playthrough, but I heard Kim ends that quest by telling you that you're fucking stupid, which is good enough. He's not gonna drop the case because his temporary partner turns out to be facist, and if he decides to trust you anyway, that's probably by you being good otherwise.
Same with rolling his eyes over you becoming racist, but, at least you are helpful? Better than the unhelpful racist.
Shooting Cunoesse is stupid, and could be meant as Kim also being a bastard cop in the end (more than bribes), but I'm blaming the game railroading him into being with you, since he's crucial.
One of the other questlines ends with the government disappearing you. That Kim can barely muster up some disagreement is not good enough. The fascist playthrough is such a great showing of "there are no good cops". And when I say fascist I don't just mean the ideological quest, I mean playing the game as a fascist piece of shit.
I'm mainly paraphrasing some long essay I read about it a while ago, but that's the point - Kim calls you out, but he doesn't change anything. He's basically the guy looking on sadly as the other cop chokes out George Floyd. Marginally better. I'll see if I can find it, it's really thought provoking.
Rolling your eyes at your racist colleague does nothing. Letting your racist colleague spend three days being a drunken oaf and not stepping in...
He wouldn't have to drop the case, he could reach out to either precinct about your massive misconduct. Instead he will support you, pay your rent and so on - when he could have gotten someone else sent out instead... These things are indictments. He will shake his head, he will tell you off, but that's all he will do. He'll still stand by your side.
Kim is only as good as you are. If you play a "realistic" cop, then he is shown for the moralist that he is - or can be, depending on the story.
I personally have a lot of faith in the games writing, so that when he doesn't stop you from killing cunoesse or doesn't give you a game over elsewhere, that's not an accident. That's on purpose. Shooting cunoesse is a game over, it could just as easily have ended with Kim stepping in.
Is it though? That's like a fascist complaining their partner is a dumb kind of fascist.
the devs are communists tbf, the game's just very "nobody can tear you down like your own friends can" about it
It's a little "friend who's too woke" to say you'll never engage in media with police as the protagonist. No Law & Order? No Columbo? No Zootopia? No like half of 80s action movies? Your media consumption habits have nothing to do with your morality, so chill out a little.
law and order and columbo are old people shows. i'm not the subreddit poster who wanted to fuck the bunny cop.
honestly 80s action movies are old people shit too ~~but i liked some of them~~. zootopia is the only one of those that people under 30 probably were into
so about that new harry potter show...
Dont you dare drag Columbo down with Law and Order. Columbo is absolutely fantastic. Columbo somehow got a job where he only investigates murders where the suspect is rich and then defeats them by being overwhelmingly working class at them until they break down
People hate harry potter because jk Rowling spends the money it earns on oppressing trans people and explicitly says that the popularity of harry potter shows that she's right to do so, not because it's lib slop.
It can always be both. Harry Potter didn't actually teach a generation to read so much as it taught a generation to not read anything else.
Columbo is goated. Watch any old port in a storm.
The issue with harry potter isn't it's content, but its production as far as I understand it. The content of Harry Potter is average libshit, it's all the surrounding stuff that has made harry potter be more than just media consumption.
This. If it wasn't providing money and support to fascists, we wouldn't be having issues with people wanting to watch it, and maybe even actively encouraging queer readings of it (he was literally forced in the closet by his guardians after all).
Kind of similar to how I find the press about the new game ZA/UM releases to be more than just annoying, and how I would consider it to be some sort of moral failure to buy it if the buyer knows anything about what has happened.
Out of the loop, what exactly has happened?
Basically the people who made the game got ratfucked out of the studio and the IP by the people who financed part of the development. The financers took control of the studio and then hired a bunch of new people (From what I could read a lot of rich brits among them, the types that usually get to have some say in culture because their parents have money and connections, vapid saltburn types. Some I assume are good people) and are now releasing this new game that is talked about in OPs image.
They then tried to do PR management by sharing stories about how the lead on the game development was a bit of an asshole, while not really going into who he was an asshole to or why or giving time to the many other people also fucked out of the company who also were really pissed about how everything went down.
Some would say this is a biased retelling. I would say it is not biased enough
Thanks, that clears it up.
The original is the opposite, you are a useless alcoholic detective who stumbles through a murder investigation in the middle of a labor crisis