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[-] AndreaHill@lemmy.world 96 points 11 months ago

Why do they not want to go bankrupt from major health issues?

[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 77 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I was listening a podcast about cancer patient in France.

One talk was about the fact that the surgeon was planning on removing the breast tumor AND do the reconstruction directly after.

Except that by doing that the operation would have cost more than what the national social security covers, so it meant a big premium for the patient.

The "big" premium they were taking about was 600€ which is obviously outrageous. To make a cancer patient spend this much money on a life saving procedure.

[-] irdc@derp.foo 52 points 11 months ago

The "big" premium they were taking about was 600€ which is obviously outrageous. To make a cancer patient spend this much money on a life saving procedure.

European here: I agree with this being outrageous. It's not about the money, it's about being a civilised society.

Now hospital parking on the other hand...

[-] aard@kyu.de 16 points 11 months ago

We do have some steep copayments for some treatments as well. For example, if I had to go to the hospital for a month I'd have to pay about 1000 EUR myself.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

I was in the hospital for an outpatient procedure a couple of years ago here in the U.S. So not even overnight. I have good insurance. It cost me $2500.

[-] Cheems@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

If I had to go into the hospital for a month, I truly would rather kill myself than have that shit looming over my for the rest of my life.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The trick is: Just don't pay these fuckers, what are they going to do? Show up and kill you?

Maybe you get sued, but maybe they don't even bother because it's not worth the cost of lawyers.

Either way, money isn't worth dying for, even in a fucked up dystopian system.

[-] beefcat@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Except now you can’t buy a house or get a loan on a car because you have this massive outstanding debt…

[-] halferect@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Jokes on them I wouldn't be able to buy a house or car that requires a loan anyways.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago
[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

hospital for a month I'd have to pay about 1000 EUR myself.

300 here.

[-] quicksand@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Ouch, way to punch below the belt lol

[-] aard@kyu.de 6 points 11 months ago

I think that amount is way too high. Nowadays I could afford it without problems, but a few years back spending some time in hospital would've messed up my budget.

I might be fine with paying for elective procedures - but hospital stays for other reasons should be covered by healthcare.

[-] quicksand@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

I agree it should all be free for non-elective procedures, but that's pretty much the cost of a few hours at an American hospital. The fact I thought you were being sarcastic and were not really reinforces how messed up our healthcare system is

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Depends on the country. There are countries where everything is covered.

this post was submitted on 15 Sep 2023
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