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Bernie arrests guy for holding up his own quote
(twitter.com)
https://nitter.net/codepink/status/1709591940675637312#m
https://www.codepink.org/arrested_11_activists_arrested_at_bernie_sanders_sit_in_for_peace
Solidarity to CodePink getting the message for diplomacy instead of endless money/arms heaping in the war as always. Can't habeeb Bernie went from resisting with his full body weight between two cops in his youth, to dolling out zip-ties like friendship bracelets. 
Correction, if it wasn't for Soviet involvement, the Germans smashed their military capacity against the Red Army, not the Americans who were lucky to break out of Normandy thanks to the Reds holding down and destroying millions of German soldiers, you Germans love to misread your own history
There's a comparison in that there are nazis in Ukraine who want to cleanse the Donbass and Crimea of Russian speakers, of course that basic fact about this nine year old conflict undermines the propaganda peddled by the same con artists who claimed Saddam had nukes
But again, Euros like you love misreading history so all this probably flew over your head
Good god. How nice of you to clear me up about the history of my own country hahaha. I'm sure the invasion in Normandy was basically a stroll in the park for the Americans. And the Eastern Germans they were so glad about their "liberation" that the Soviet govt had to build a wall to keep people from running away from this GLORIOUS "democratic" state. Even shot people who wanted to exercise their right to leave.
But lets leave it at that. There's no sense in discussing with someone who thinks they are all-knowing keepers of the truth without even knowing the definition of doubt.
For someone who's German, you seem to be unaware of the basic fact that the East and West German border was well outside Berlin, and that the Berlin Wall was a physical border encircling West Berlin, given West Berlin was part of a hostile nation at the time.
Hard borders exist between nations. Try running the border between Pakistan and India and you'll also get shot, because surprise surprise, when there's tension between nations, there tends to be increased tension at the border, too.
Fucking braindead.
oh look, a german doing soft nazi apologia.
how unsurprising.
That's what I came here for. I like the hexbear shitposting attitude :D
Just today I took the rare opportunity to dive into your echo chamber and have some debates. I hope y'all are not too triggered now. Don't take all the things I said too seriously. In the end I'm not 100% sure what the best course of action regarding Ukraine would be. But you certainly are, so having such discussions in a nuanced way really becomes difficult. Enjoyed it nevertheless so far.
if you're going to give us your fake unbothered attitude then please go back to reddit. it's unhealthy to pretend to have ironic detachment from your worldview, as if this is actually a fun debate, while actually feeling troubled and challenged by people who don't conform to the liberal worldview. you're trying to assert - and we see through - that you imagine us to be some uncontacted tribe which you are visiting as a redditor missionary or anthropologist, writing "hmm, a fascinating shitposting attitude in this society! I shall report this to the civilized internet!" in your journal, thus automatically placing any and all of our views in the "uncivilized" category for automatic discarding.
having this detachment feels much psychologically safer than having concrete, heartfelt beliefs that you have to defend, but leaves you confused, miserable, and directionless about the world and how to solve problems. I know this because I was in your position once upon a time when I was a young liberal. you are, in three words, "totally not owned."; in another three, "actually having fun." I have another three words for you.
you're still doing "triggered" stuff? my god. I'll help you fix your time machine so you can go back to 2016
The Germans are not OK
I'm not detached from my worldview. But if holding a belief means I have to view everything that happens through the same lens, and not being able to appreciate multiple perspectives on an issue, then yes, I'd rather not hold a belief but decide from case to case. If that means to you that I'm detached then I can't help it.
Being able to enjoy an argument doesn't imply that I don't take it seriously. Feeling troubled and challenged by people who don't conform to a world view... That could surely be said about the reactions of many here, why should I be an exception?
I don't sort most views here in my "uncivilized" folder and I couldn't care less to "report" that to anyone, as I'm not aligning with any particular community and am not interested in making fun of others when I can be sure that I will get nice slaps on the back for. You surely do enough for the "uncontacted tribe" image yourselves when I remember the (funny) posts about the panic of some people in other communities after federation. Plesse don't imply that I invented this shit or that it's now suddenly some offensive perspective.
You could, I don't know, actually argue with the points you disagree with and articulate the rationale you used to arrive at your conclusions instead of doing this whole "oh ho ho you actually believe a thing I disagree with how fascinating" shtick.
lmao, how far up your own ass are you? You really think this sanctimonious drivel is the appropriate way to respond to anything anyone here has told you?
This isn't reddit motherfucker, keep that debate bro bullshit outta here
If it was an echo chamber you wouldn't be allowed to come in here and get smacked around for our amusement. Now finish your homework, it's almost bed time.
140 people in total were killed trying to cross from East to West Germany. Not 140 million. Not 140 thousand. 140, over a 30 year period. 4-5 people per year. Obama's drone strikes killed at least 3800 people, a tenth of which were civilians even under Obama's maximalist definition, over 8 years. Which historical events do people mention more when searching for evidence of brutality by governments - Obama's drone strikes, or the Berlin Wall? Thousands die in the Mediterranean Sea trying to cross it. Israel's crimes in Palestine dwarf the crimes of the Berlin Wall. Why are European governments not derided as authoritarian hellscapes like the GDR was? Why is Israel not a pariah state for their totalitarianism?
I know about these opinions, especially since I'm living in the East. Also I genuinely respect them. But of course there are reasons for this: The people who wouldn't voice that opinion have been long gone. Either fled before 89 or moved to Western Germany in the years after, as millions of young Eastern Germans have done. And those who stayed were most likely those living on the countryside where influence of the government was smaller and the oppression less notable. But of course the GDR was not hell on earth and some people had the chance to enjoy life every now and then.
Still... Even if not many were shot: Many more were interrogated and tortured in Stasi jail. And knowing that anyone, even your closest relatives, could be spying on you... Just because you didn't conform to the reason of state. That must've been horrible. It's not like people fled the country without reason.
Eagerly awaiting your essay discussing the authoritarian and orwellian treatment that communists received from the United States government.
Instead of lashing out at me for informing you about basic facts maybe you should brush up on your history
Or you could continue glorifying your own ignorance and regurgitating pop culture propaganda you picked up as a child
Don't be mad that I'm lashing out a bit. At least you're saying clearly that I'm just falling for propaganda, not being able to think critically in your opinion. But I could say the exact same thing about you. Imo it's ignorance to lecture someone about the history of their own country as if that person had never informed themselves or reflected on that history. I didn't want to diminish the role of the Red Army in defeating the nazis, of course they had insane losses and contributed significantly to the victory over nazism. However I don't think that the Americans taking part in it did only play a minor part. Both sides working together was necessary to achieve this. And I don't think it makes any sense to argue about who contributed the most. Also completely besides the point because my argument was about pacifism. And neither the Russians nor the Americans defeated the nazis without weapons.
As an American, I can tell you most Americans need a decades worth of lectures on our own history because we are thoroughly propagandized to believe anything but.
Unless it's a North Korean or Chinese citizen speaking positively about their own country, then you can lecture them about their own country's history
Germans don't get to talk about their own WW2 history with any authority, you get to sit down and listen because it was your grandparents that fucked up and it was them that were re-installed back into power and it was them that determined your cultural and educational upbringing. You are the least qualified people on Earth to talk about fascism or German history with any arrogance. You should feel a lot more shame, and do a lot more listening to the communists.
quick q, who do you think was responsible for the Nordstream attack?