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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Think about it, genocide and student loans are not gonna sway boomers or Gen Xers one way or the other

Trump's legal battles are gonna bog his campaign down and many of his supporters don't trust voting because of his "2020 steal" narrative

Housing prices and the line are up which means everyone in the top 30% income percentile who isn't online adores Biden

Biden will probably win with a slightly larger margin than last time

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden will probably win with a slightly larger margin than last time

Big doubt there.

I don't think its possible to call this election at the moment, but i do doubt he does better than in 2020. It'll be interesting to see what the turn out is compared to 2020 as well. I wouldn't be suprised if its lower on both sides

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Definitely lower turnout on both sides but I think biden will hold on to his margins in total

The coming dem campaign against Arab Americans and Muslims in general will convert some reactionaries who soured on Trump the last 4 years, while Trump will still be talking about the "steal" and court minutiae

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

That sounds more realistic to me. Biden could win and he could hold his margins. I just doubt he does better, if he does win. I agree that overall the "steal" and court shit aren't great angles for Trump to maintain appeal to the Republican party as a whole. I'm not sure they'll pick up the swing reactionaries though

[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not sure I exactly disagree with you but the wildcard here might be further inflation driven by supply chain disruption in the red sea... (whether it's real or just companies seizing on disruption to price gouge), or other escalation in the middle east leading the US to get directly involved or severely embarassed

Also people who aren't in the top 30% of income do absolutely still vote. At lower rates sure, but they do vote. in major elections turnout doesn't go below 50% until you get to severe poverty levels of income

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Anythings possible and I'm not gonna pretend logical analysis is even meaningful when it comes to electoralism

That being said, he barely won last time and has worked hard to piss off union members, environmentalists, and anybody who is against genocide while completely failing to do anything about roe or student debts.

I don't see how he's picked up any new voters since barely winning and I'm sure there's millions of people who just vote for whoever isn't rhe incumbent since they didn't get rich in the last 4 years.

Yeah I've had similar thoughts and gotten similar pushback from people on here. Biden is polling bad rn cuz of general bad vibes, but the demos who actually turn out to vote are still comfortable with the status quo, and I think a lot of the angrier young people will get scared back into backing the blue once the election is closer and the media starts scare mongering about Trump again. Trump diehards are still gonna diehard but I think his support among the broader right is wavering a bit.

[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump's legal battles are gonna bog his campaign down

lol

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

It will tho, Trump's hogs want racial animus and anti-lib owning, courtroom drama is for Sorkin fans

Courtroom sketches and liberal pudents on TV controlling the output of information from the court is gonna bore the hogs to tears and again bog his campaign down