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[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 78 points 9 months ago

They're technically not banning tiktok, they're banning China from owning tiktok

[-] bouh@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

Which is somehow even worse : it's like only the USA is allowed to spy on everyone!

[-] duffman@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

They can still spy, but why would we make it easier for them?

[-] bouh@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

So you don't ridiculise your country by promoting freedom of trade but seizing the assets of the countries you don't like when it's a better tech than yours.

[-] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

You can't be ridiculed if you feel no shame.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

our most and least popular politician is a sex predator who earned all his money by his dad dying and is currently at risk of losing his money because he can't stop lying about things.

The greatest monument to american shamelessness is Donald J Trump.

[-] duffman@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I'm not with my government on a lot of things they do. I want the same data rights and restrictions to apply to all companies that host people's personal information.

But what's this about Impressive tech? Tiktoc? First that's laughable, even more laughable is how you phrase is as if anyone would give a fuck if another country had some better tech. Sounds like you are projecting your own insecurities.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

It will be just as easy for them, just less profitable. Now they'll just pay Zuckerberg or Musk for the information. If they aren't already.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

And it’s not like they can’t maintain use of the thing while not being owners. Come on. Like there’s some magic rule if a company’s not owned by China, it can’t be used as a Chinese intelligence source? Come on.

If social media is in cahoots with foreign intelligence, there are better ways to handle it in my opinion.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 3 points 9 months ago

The fact that China is using disinformation to stop the forced sale of TikTok is pretty telling that they will be negatively impacted by this.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Or that they’re willing to expend energy to get us to think that.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Every superpower spies on their citizens. Every single one.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

They're functionally forcing the sale of the company to a US Firm at fire sale prices.

[-] Rinox@feddit.it 5 points 9 months ago

Yeah, you are right. They should do like they do in China, sell to a JV with a local company at fire sales price... Oh wait

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

sell to a JV with a local company at fire sales price

The Chinese policy is to share ownership with locals, so that a firm isn't simply extracting wealth from the Chinese market.

The American policy is to seize a pre-existing firm after it has developed, by accusing its Singapore founder of being a secret Chinese Communist.

[-] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

This is primarily intended as a hostile buyout of tiktok. It has literally nothing to do with China.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Lmao, the USA doesn't operate the commercial sector outside of power, trains, rockets, and planes. It won't benefit from the sale in any way other than lowering Chinese involvement.

[-] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

The US government works for the billionaires that run the economy. Many billionaires want to buy tiktok. In fact, there's already teams of people set up for buying out tiktok. The government is just the tool for the hostile acquisition. No one said the US government is directly purchasing tiktok.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -3 points 9 months ago

The US Government and Billionaires are opposing forces, one political party wants to tax billionaires while the other is on the payroll.

[-] tbs9000@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

They’re not at all opposing forces. Some billionaires are in competition with each other and political parties are tools at certain billionaires disposal.

The act of taxing income is but one political mechanism used to influence the power of some billionaires over another.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago

So which of these shadow government billionaires is pro-government in your eyes?

[-] tbs9000@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I’m not sure I understand your question. They are both pro-government. If any one human could be the personification of government, it would be the President of the United States.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 9 months ago

So every billionaire is pro-government, and against taxation, but also pro-taxation to hurt the other billionaires (each other) but also the political party with a platform of "Tax the Rich" is in no way actually opposed to the political party who literally cuts taxes for the rich?

You should see a doctor.

[-] tbs9000@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Again, taxation is but one of many levers pulled in the working of government which have substantial implications on billionaires. Whether and where to impose tariffs or regulation, for example, are decisions which wealthy business owners are very concerned.

I’ll see a doctor as soon as you approach others with more respect. Let’s not Reddit Lemmy with unmerited hostility.

this post was submitted on 22 Mar 2024
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