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Every freak on here's just gunna' desperately scramble to "dunk" on them and embarrass us all.
As one of the rare non-hexbear who still sees hexbear content and occasionally comments, yeah this is the issue. Hi everyone!
My team and I are analyzing all 132 of your comments. R&Ding the perfect dunk. Be prepared.
Every further comment you make only increases the metricized dunk-matrix quotient.
Go for it. It's mostly that it makes others not want to interact with you guys. I obviously don't really care that much. You don't convince them of anything except maybe making them dislike you, so the opposite of what you should want. I know it enforces group think and makes others in the group feel more attached so they don't leave really, but it's not going to turn anyone new into a leftist.
Sadly true. Even if we don't have aspirations of being on the lib to left pipeline, we definitely scare people off by being overzealous with dogpiling.
I think people should be more patient with those who have lib-smelling inquiries, but I'm all in favor of bullying the bad-faith posters incapable of questioning their assumptions. I see more of the latter than the former, which is why I think so many here are quick to start roasting.
I find it amusing when there are threads with half the responses are giant walls of text trying to explain things and the other half pictures of a pig shitting on its testicles.
Makes me wish Lemmy supported having both federated & unfederated comms or per-comm federation lists, so we could have federated 101-type spaces where dunks are explicitly removed, and unfederated shitposting free from intrusion.
I totally agree bad faith arguments deserve all the shit they get. I just think the comment "shitting on" good faith arguments do more harm than good. There are a ton of bad faith arguments. I, personally, just tend to ignore or rebut their claims so it doesn't hurt anything. The hexbear version of dunking on them doesn't promote anything good and at best turns the single person posting on it away. The ideal is to convince other viewers of alternatives.
If someone's posting bad faith arguments I would rather not waste anyones time interacting with them, they're certainly not there to be educated.
Chasing them off with mockery seems like the least bad option, if the other options are giving it credibility by trying to respond or ignoring it.
The problem is discerning the difference between the two can be inconsistent, leading to some users effort posting while others mock.
Totally agree. Bad faith arguments don't deserve the time or effort. If you do spend the time, at least spend it aware other people than the OP may see it.
I also agree there is no reliable way to tell bad faith from good faith, at least before they contradict themselves, but that takes time.
What many people take offense to, is the fact that a lot of "good faith" arguments are still repugnant, and frankly not always distinguishable (hope thats a word) from bad faith arguments.
To give you an example that I've seen quite a lot: Like the current situtation with the Middle East, where you see liberals of all kinds either straight up supporting Israel's genocide, or clamoring for a millitary intervention against the Ansarallah movement governing Yemen. If you (general you, not you specifically) don't know what that movement is about, or just how popular it is, or what they have been going through for the past decade, I don't give a flying fuck what kind of argument you make, you are not going to understand why their actions are in fact rational (and also legal, but that's a separate issue). Same with the Ukraine war, same with the October 7th attacks, same with a potential war against Iran. If you (again, every you is general, not as a reply to you) genuinely believe that people outside of the United States can afford to act against the United States based solely on the reason that they're evil, or hate the west or some other moron-grade explanation, you are going to be dunked on, because your opinion is at best worthless and can at best become a learning opportunity, but more likely will just result in the lib in question taking their ball home and blocking us.
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This is one of those things that does a good job of demonstrating for normal social cohesion mechanisms are villified when observed in fringe groups. You have no problem insulting and condescending and yet criticize us for the same, even as people have been nice to you. I don't care to flatter the sensibilities of whoever the next NATOist shitlib is telling me about asiatic hordes, they are clearly not interested in learning. What matters are the people who don't have the same moronic confidence that the NATOists do.
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I'm gonna be honest with you zip, being disliked by lemmy users is not the knockdown you think it is
I've always maintained lemmy users who joined the last six months are the dregs of reddit who make normal redditers look well-adjusted and poltically coherent, and my assertion has yet to be proven wrong
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It was a joke
hey look everyone, an outsider 
Issue? Or feature?
Hello and welcome! 👋
You know you love seeing a good hexbear dunk.
None of you grind libs and it shows.
I mean, pretty much anytime we let any libs in here, they inevitably do something damaging to our more vulnerable comrades
Probably for the best that we carry out the occasional raid on them rather than let them skitter in the rafters like mice
Perhaps my math was off...
I think you are writing from a good impulse, but what we really want are raiding parties going to other places and improving them.
Hell yeah we can do Hexbear viking 
But that's brigaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaading
Exactly, they'll say it regardless so might as well swing for the fences in cases where it would be helpful
I have no interest in seeing dogshit opinions just to dunk on them
Just bring good posts
Honestly, my main gripe with Hexbear is the amount of dunk tank type content. I come here because I'm tired of seeing those shitty opinions. Not that I don't enjoy it from time to time, but it's more the proportion. It's the junk food of posting.
This place has so many knowledgeable comrades posting useful resources and helping people learn that I'm willing to drudge through the birdsite screenshots to find the nugget of gold.
Sorry lol.
I find being able to bring bad takes here and get people agreeing that theyre bad very cathartic.
I have a better idea:
Federate with a lib server and make everyone on hexbear a mod.
Those first few days were wild. They were so legendary that liberals still talk about us in hushed tones on instances we can't even see or post on. They accuse one another of being secret hexbears, it's great.
Ok the fact that our mere existance is so frightening to them that they accuse each other of being secret Hexbears fills me with glee.
Me and two other users kept some shitty meme at the top of the page for 3-4 days because we kept dunking on an ever-increasing influx of libs lol. It was great, one of them didn't understand the concept of "source critique".
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The few days where lemm.ee wasn't sending any activity federated servers really put a damper on things. I had to make a hexbear account just to get my fix. Don't tell anyone
I commented in another post but there aren't any other lemmy instances out there that arent:
1.) Already federated with us 2.) Blocking us 3.) We aren't federating because for various reasons including (large amount of reactionaries that threaten the safety of our marginalized users, host content that is bad (porn or loli), or have a site feature that invalidates one of ours)
At the current moment when you look at the https://join-lemmy.org/instances
You can also see our allow/block lists at hexbear.net/instances
please correct me if i'm wrong
Based on activity from 11k user per month to 100 user per month:
- lemmy.world (blocked us)
- lemmynsfw.com (not on allow-list)
- lemm.ee (federated)
- lemmy.ml (federated)
- feddit.de (blocked us)
- hexbear.net (us :>)
- sh.itjust.works (not on allow-list)
- lemmy.ca (blocked us)
- programming.dev (federated)
- lemmy.dbzer0.com (federated)
- discuss.technics.de (federated)
- beehaw.org (blocked us)
- lemmygrad.ml (federated)
- sopuli.xyz (blocked us)
- lemmy.sdf.org (federated)
- lemmy.blahaj.zone (blocks us)
- lemmy.zip (federated)
- reddthat.com (federated)
- feddit.uk (federated)
- aussie.zone (federated)
- feddit.nl (federated)
- lemmy.one (federated)
- infosec.pub (federated)
- midwest.social (federated)
- lemmy.today (federated)
- slrpnk.net (blocked us)
- startrek.website (federated)
- lemmy.eco.br (federated)
- jlai.lu (federated)
- feddit.it (federated)
- pawb.social (blocked us)
- ttrpg.network (federated)
- lemy.lol (federated)
- iusearchlinux.fyi (federated)
- feddit.ch (federated)
- lemmings.world (blocked us)
- lemmus.org (federated)
- szmer.info (federated)
- ani.social (not on allow-list)
Lol why did a solar punk instance block us? Guess for the same reason a supposed inclusive one did.
Really not hopeful about the future when these existential threats still aren't enough for people to examine why it might make sense to form coalitions with communists or other flavors of actual leftists
Oh comrade, I was totally joking. Rate limiting the number of libs coming into the instance such that they'd be rare is an unfeasible farce.
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Is the anime com not allowed for loli? Hentai? Reactionairy weeb userbase? All of the above?
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