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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 98 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Universal healthcare now, paid for by the top 5 wealthiest people in the country. If they don't want to pay it, they can spend until they are #6 or below.

Guillotines for anyone taking action against universal healthcare.

[–] willis936@lemmy.world 94 points 2 years ago (6 children)

When you're told the economy is doing great this is what they mean. It's a bad message to send in an election year.

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[–] snek@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago

Sadly this won't make them any tastier.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So what's your breaking point? What's society's?

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago

Americans have been conditioned for nearly a century now to be far too comfortable to do anything. The fascists have learned their lesson, and this time they are much better at keeping people from caring until it's too late.

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[–] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As anyone who has played the board game Monopoly can tell you, this is the point in the game where the game is effectively "over", the winner has been decided. That one player owns most of the board and the rest are hanging on with mortgages and selling off their houses and properties to hang on for one more turn and hoping to land on a space that doesn't bankrupt them. But we all know they eventually will.

So, when do we say GG, pack up the board and try something else?

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 22 points 2 years ago (5 children)

GG? The game was rigged from the start. It's time to flip the table.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Makes me wonder what the numbers would be if we did tax brackets for capital property.

Like with incomes there's might be a standard deviation curve but people are considered at least diet rich in this country if they can afford to own a second home for whatever purpose.

Going up to three properties I'm pretty sure makes viewing it based on percentile pointless.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Not directly related to income tax, but I'm a big believer in having property taxed on an exponential scale. Start off quite low for your first property, a vacation home is still reasonable, but by the time you're much past that it becomes completely unreasonable to keep buying properties. Add a hefty multiplier for empty units on top of that, and you'd go a long way to fixing the issue with property hoarding.

E: sp

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I believe a person/family should be allowed up to 3

  • live in

  • rent

  • bach.

Anything above that gets taxed in every way we can so you can and do make a profit, but its considered similar to other financial investments including risk.

Not sure how the loopholes would work if they own part with an ex, or kids, or single to relationship, but the general idea.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What's crazy is I pay around 45% income tax. And these people have their billions. How about anyone making less than 500k a year doesn't get taxed, and those fuckers pay.

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[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

It's time to eat these motherfuckers

[–] DragonAce@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Lets see some names. Who are these people?

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Elon Musk

Jeff Bezos

Bill Gates

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[–] stewsters@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Larry Ellison, Warren Buffett, and Bernard Arnault

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

we call them "space billionaires"

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 years ago (4 children)

That's a hell of a lot of money to steal in just a few years. In under a decade, they'll all be trillionaires, and we'll all be trillions of dollars poorer.

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[–] BlackNo1@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

can we please just absolutely devour these “people”

[–] Scew@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

was surprised that there aren't gps coordinates attached.

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[–] UFODivebomb@programming.dev 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can't wait to read some idiot's argument on why Trump is the right guy to fix this lol

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Man that's bad why aren't people doing something about this. Me then proceed to continue doomscrolling.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The problem (according to Das Kapital ) is that the owning class will fight back. Not all of them. Some realize that long-term capitalism requires keeping the working class happy (more or less) but well more than not. And as we learned with feudalism in the middle ages, it takes only one bad king to bring the ruin the works of ten of his predecessors. (It's a running theme in A Song of Ice and Fire )

So these recommendations are on the assumption that our governments are not already captured. The point of government is to serve the public good and the US has been trying to go back to that for over a century (since the Great depression, which escalated the desire to try something else, all the while the Soviet Union was doing just that.)

Our plutocrats have more resources by which to keep hold of our current governments, even as industry pollutes the air and drives us toward extinction.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Please don't perceive the Soviet Union as serving the public good. It was a well played (albeit it was 1950s 1960s, easy to write your own narrative) fascism that only benefitted Stalin and Moscow, while keeping the usual fireworks expense needed to sate the masses (just as in capitalist America) at a minimum. They murdered good people left and right, because they weren't obedient. They murdered good and bad people because they had money they wanted.

They were no different from Nazis, in that Moscow wanted to russify the world. They did it in a more "tolerant" way, you could say. Doing their genocides slowly. Immigrating ethnic russians over decades. But make no mistake, Lebensraum for ethnic russians was executed without much pondering. Killing, burning, destroying anything that was in the way.

Some "visionaries" were allowed to build some architectural projects or other, for the people, as long as they adhered to the party's rule, kept the fake narrative going. This was an easy way for a person without honor to have his name written in stone. Repeat for all subcultures.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Great. I think the rest of us were made poorer, with stock market going down a lot, inflation and high energy prices.

But who cares right.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Stock market grew 12%ish last year. Additionally, the health of the stock market isn't a meaningful measure of how well the average citizen is doing, it's mostly for the wealthy and elderly.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Plenty of people care about a lot of things. I believe the modern problem is we can't seem to stop talking and stop forgetting until we're collectively reminded about it all sometime later. I'm wondering how long until it becomes too much. Because it appears everyone is tired of it snd yet so little action also appears to be taken.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 10 points 2 years ago

People don't have power so I think that's why no action is taken too. What are we gonna do, vote....

[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Morbidly Wealthy"....."Economically Obese"..?

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Doesn't morbid mean - dangerous for life? As in those parasites are looking more succulent each day. LOL

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (7 children)
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