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[-] OttoVonNoob@lemmy.ca 96 points 10 months ago

George Bush Jnr invades Iraq with fabricated evidence. Lies to allies about proof, drags many allies into shitty desert conflict. Gets halo as in post presidency isn't an asshole.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 21 points 10 months ago

You believe the conspiracy theory that the evidence was fabricated? Do you also believe that 911 was an inside job? /s

[-] faceless@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

the us claimed that Iraq had wmds, but it was later revealed Iraq has no usable wmds (they had some sarin that expired in the 70s) and the us had a congressional hearing where the armed services confirmed that they considered the unusable wmds as active wmds, even though they could not be used. it was not a conspiracy later proven true like the Tonkin incident, but just using the vague definition of WMD (there is no offical one delcared by the UN) to the army's advantage

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 12 points 10 months ago

Thanks! I remember vaguely. I didn't understand the details back then but I remember that everyone knew it's bs already back then. I put "/s" for a reason under my first comment

[-] hallettj@beehaw.org 23 points 10 months ago

The justification for invading Iraq was a claim that they were developing nuclear weapons. It was well known at the time that the evidence was flimsy, and that even if true it was a flimsy excuse for an invasion. The main piece of evidence was an intercepted shipment of aluminum tubes that were soon shown to have nothing to do with a nuclear program. (See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_aluminum_tubes). That one is not a conspiracy theory.

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[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Honestly, it's much easier to come up with a reasonable conspiracy theory around 9/11 than most people think. There's proof that the FBI and DHS knew that the attacks were being planned (iirc they were warned multiple times by Mossad), so it isn't that much of a stretch to believe that the US intentionally ignored the warnings with the knowledge that such an attack would justify another war in the Middle East.

Ignoring the warnings would be a win-win. You get to go to war for oil if they're real, and if they're fake, then nothing happens and life goes on like it always has.

[-] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I think the DHS was set up in response to 9/11 so it didn't exist yet, but the CIA and the NSA also knew about the upcoming attack before it happened.

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[-] Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 83 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It always gets me that they made Obama white in this.

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 33 points 10 months ago

Make no mistake, this was made by a professional goat getter.

[-] blandfordforever@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago

A. PROFESSIONAL. GOAT. GETTER.

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[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

For another person to "get your goat" is a phrase meaning to rile you up, to both upset and excite you, or to coerce you into taking action via emotional manipulation.

"They told me this sort of guy would get my goat if I let his jokes get to me, but he actually rode it in when he walked into the room wearing the exact same suit with a much cooler tie and boots."

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[-] ULS@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

Tbf it would have thrown off all the symmetrical balance. /S.

[-] tubaruco@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

oh my god! and you say this with a /serious?! /s

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago

Ah yes the war monger and torture proponent Angel. I remember him from the Bible.

[-] Happybara@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago

This has to be bait. Nobody who actually knows anything about JRs presidency would present him like this unless they were apologists or trolls.

[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 10 months ago

I don't think it's bait (though I don't think OP believes this opinion, we're on lemmy's 196), I think it's a political shitpost.

[-] jak@sopuli.xyz 23 points 10 months ago

What is a shitpost but bait that you admit is bait?

[-] ApfelstrudelWAKASAGI@feddit.de 28 points 10 months ago

Why are you people so mean to him :( He killed so many Iraqis and this is how you honour him?

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 10 months ago

Sorry, but who is JR? Contextually, it seems like it's supposed to be George W. Bush, but there's no J or R there, so I'm lost.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 10 months ago

There's George H.W Bush and George W. Bush so without using the middle initials people would say George Jr or George Sr.

Funny how people cried about a Clinton Dynasty, but those same people were fine voting for father and son to be president and now want an actual dictator... I hate politics.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 10 months ago

Oh right. JR = Jr = Bush Jr = George W Bush?

Cheers.

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[-] einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de 35 points 10 months ago
[-] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 10 months ago
[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

Carter. That's why they changed the rules so we couldn't get another one like him.

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago
[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

The DNC changed their rules to make it harder to get on the primary if they didn't like you. It's difficult finding the timeline of DNC rules, so take that with a grain of salt.

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[-] ApfelstrudelWAKASAGI@feddit.de 24 points 10 months ago

George Bush it says so in the post

[-] ApfelstrudelWAKASAGI@feddit.de 39 points 10 months ago

He has W in his name for a reason

[-] altec@midwest.social 17 points 10 months ago
[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

FDR threw 200,000 Americans into concentration camps. He's one of the worst.

[-] Poxlox@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

With the premise thqt being a good president =/= being a good person: Washington Adams Jefferson Lincoln FDR Wilson Carter Sorta LBJ as long as you don't think he was involved in JFK death And phucket Obom'ner, you have to admit he was nationally gridlocked but it was a much better time for America plus Obamacare saved and improved lives

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[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago
[-] pigup@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago
[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you're going to apply modern standards, there are no good people in most of human history.

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[-] taanegl@beehaw.org 20 points 10 months ago

Glory to the Bush. He emancipated corporations from consequence.

[-] Kattail_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 months ago

but... obamna is so funny :_<

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 10 months ago

You mean he has a good PR team

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[-] ULS@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

No one's more gangster than a president.

[-] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

I'll agree with that. W seems like an all together great guy, but a bit simple. Most of the bs that came from his presidency was Cheney pulling his strings.

I loved his 'Bushisms' where he'd just make up words.

[-] Cagi@lemmy.ca 23 points 10 months ago

He is actually incredibly intelligent and a war criminal. Graduated in the top 2% of the Harvard Business School, he's not simple. He's just recorded often enough that it became easy to paint him as simple, bringing forward his little stupid slip ups we all make. He's a cunning, evil man.

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[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 7 points 10 months ago

I need names! I am recognising Obama ans Trump but the other ones... I know vaguely the faces but that's all.

[-] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

This is your daily reminder that babies born in 2000 and don't remember the "dubya" era because they were 8 years old when it ended are turning 24 this year.

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[-] teegus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago

Bush Sr , Clinton, Bush Jr., Obama, Trump

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[-] ApfelstrudelWAKASAGI@feddit.de 9 points 10 months ago

Satan, Satan, our Lord and Saviour, Satan, Satan

[-] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago

The last 5 us presidents before biden

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Praise the God Emperor Bush

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[-] SeabassDan@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Well yeah, dude was knocking down buildings in his own country.

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