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In other news: water is wet. I think we all knew that Charles wouldn't have to go through the same pains us common British folk do in regards to accessing healthcare. But nonetheless I think it's important to continue to highlight these ever growing class divisions in the UK, such as those between people who can afford private healthcare and people who have to rely on our public services. People in positions of authority and power in our country do not understand the struggles of everyday British people.


My TL;DR:

Charles is already receiving expert care for his cancer within days of diagnosis. His speedy treatment should draw fresh attention to the long cancer treatment waiting times that most British people experience with the NHS.

The proportion of patients in England waiting less than 62 days from an urgent suspected cancer referral or consultant upgrade to their first definitive treatment for cancer is 65.2%.

Amid growing frustration at NHS waiting lists, record numbers of people are paying for private healthcare. Nearly 300,000 people in the UK have paid for chemotherapy in the last five years.

Survival rates for cancer in the UK lag behind those of other European countries for nine out of 10 of the most common types of the disease.

Researchers said cancer waiting times across the country were among the worst on record, too many cancers were diagnosed at a late stage, and access to treatment was unequal.

Buckingham Palace has not specified whether the king is receiving private healthcare or being treated on the National Health Service.

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[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 107 points 10 months ago

This is all intentional. They can't outright privatise the NHS without major outcry so they've made it unusable for as many as possible.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 86 points 10 months ago

“That's the standard technique of privatization: defund, make sure things don't work, people get angry, you hand it over to private capital.” — Noam Chomsky.

[-] xhieron@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

Indeed. As a Yank who always has to pay for healthcare anyway, it's easy to see the parallels in labor/employment, civil rights, and financial security: We're facing a global regressive movement from the political right, and those people have no scruples. They absolutely want to claw back every single gain the general public has made in rights and benefits over the last 75 years, and making benefits unpopular is the first step to privatizing them.

Never forget the NHS, warts and all, is a thing that we Americans would die to have, and for want of it many of us too often literally do.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

An anecdote for anyone in the UK that is leaning towards abolishing or privatizing your NHS.

I had an appendectomy last year, you know, a surgery that something like 40% of the population will need at some point in their lifetime.

It cost me $7000, with "decent" insurance (UHC to be clear).

The final bill pre-insurance was a smidge under $170.000.

You guys need to burn the Tories down before you end up with the same system. The USA's healthcare system should be considered an example of what not to do, not a goal to strive for.

[-] Pronell@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

I work for UHC.

I think they're a decent company, considering the industry.

I've made a nice and fairly comfortable career here.

Burn it all down. Give everyone healthcare.

I'll find another job.

[-] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

My girlfriend works for a private company instead of the NHS and she hates it on a moral level, too, but it's impossible to work for the NHS and keep your sanity. Be it the working conditions, hours, or pay. It's a shambles and it's all because we - the stupid public - continue to be suckered into believing it's good for us.

Not to mention that the left is fractured. We all want progress, but can't decide on exactly what progress should look like. Meanwhile conservatives only have 1 real option: Tories.

I'm convinced at BEST we're going to have another hung parliament with the bastards ultimately staying in power.

This country is fucked.

[-] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

An anecdote for anyone in the UK that is leaning towards abolishing or privatizing your NHS.

Fortunately that's a vanishingly small number of people in the UK, the NHS has almost universal support.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

That's good to hear. Now kick the Tories out & fund it properly.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago

It's so fucked up because not only are these assholes ruining another countries healthcare, they also are giving ammunition to our shithole country to never implement a universal healthcare system...

[-] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Which assholes are you talking about?

[-] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

"Conservative" thieves, worldwide.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 10 months ago

The ones in the UK government trying to ruin the healthcare system so they can make a privatized system more "appealing."

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

The Conservatives did that. I don't think Charles actually likes them much.

[-] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

Does anyone care about major outcries in UK anymore? What do they ever achieve?

People forget and move on after a couple weeks of anger

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago

The Tories haven't recovered in the polls since partygate and Truss, something has finally stuck.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They still need to get elected to carry out their plans.

Even the most zealous Tories I know are planning to vote against them this time.

Most of their voters aren't rich people and they need to keep them on side.

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[-] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I'm still waiting for the follow-up on the Panama Papers.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't know what you mean people are still very angry about all this, but we're not going to have riots in the street over it. I kind of wish we would in a sort of way, but realistically simply voting the idiots out is probably the best way to deal with the problem.

Of course Labour have their own issues but I feel like their issues that might actually be fixable, whereas the Tories just don't care.

[-] HauntingScience@programming.dev 55 points 10 months ago

My best wishes to the cancer. It must not be easy to contract a king.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago

A nasty malignant form of ancient evil ruthlessly attacking the poor cancer.

[-] HauntingScience@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

LMAO my comment saying that cancer got a king was deleted by mods because I guess you can’t say anything bad about the king here. Classic.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Through federation magic I can still see the comment.

[-] HauntingScience@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It seems it wasn’t deleted from this community server, so I retract my comment!

It makes me happy that this community is ok with it, seems someone at lemmy.world didn’t like it and I’m still not used to have deletion messages from servers that I didn’t post in.

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LMAO I guess the king should feel free of harassment in case his eminence wants to visit Lemmy in between not doing anything and not doing anything at all.

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

It's good to be the king

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

Very similar to the vibes of that coronation photo where he is riding in a golden carriage over a ruined street where every pothole is hastily filled with sand.

[-] Overzeetop@beehaw.org 10 points 10 months ago

A proper leader would ensure all of his subjects are treated before him. If he wishes to speed his own process he should fix the system, not circumvent or commandeer it.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 8 points 10 months ago

Perhaps the waiting times for homeopathic treatment are a lot shorter?

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Oh, maybe he's is not being treated on the island meaning Britain, ... but that other one where doctors regularly fly in.

[-] dunestorm@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

This country and the people who run it is a fucking joke. This is no different to Victorian era shit, except we’re supposed to be more civilised nowadays and accept these freeloaders to get preferential treatment? Fuck off, paid thieves is what they are.

[-] Aquilae@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Critical support to his cancer in its heroic war against this filthy monarch

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Of course he didn't have to wait he's probably going private, which other people could do too. This isn't an issue of him being a king, and everything to do with him being rich.

[-] ebits21@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

He’s the monarch…. I’m … not surprised in the least.

Banish the monarchy if you want to complain.

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Banishing the monarchy won't help the problem of long waiting lists though. At least is has brought the issue to the front page and people are aware of the seriousness of the problem. Let's hope they vote for a party that will do something about it in the next elections

[-] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

It would be nice if you could abstain from paying a proportion of tax to the monarchy and making it opt-in to support it

[-] Potatofish@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

But he's such a stand-up guy. We should totally stop everything and treat this manchild. After all, what would we do without him??

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