That's insurmountable hypocrisy. Just zero self-awareness.
It's not at all. The Muslim man is fine using non Muslim sex workers, because he views non Muslims as lesser, and dirty.
Upon learning the woman was Muslim he called out that she was defiling herself, by acting like the lesser humans.
Similarly, he probably felt bad about himself because his use of a sex worker who was Muslim was more objectionable than if he found a non Muslim sex worker.
It's internally consistent but absolutely shitty.
When you believe that YOUR god is the right one, groupthink tends towards supremacy of the religion and its followers.
That's pretty much islam in a nutshell.
All religion
Even sex cults? /s
Especially sex cults! Mostly because I'm not invited.
I include all the cults of Abraham in this.
So by this logic, it’s totally fine to “defile” someone who isn’t Muslim? Wtf.
It's just that the man when buying sex is not (as much) sinning, but the woman who allows him to buy sex is very much sinning.
Ah, religion.
not (as much) sinning
So like, is it just his cock and balls that go to hell?
You ever see an angel with a dick?
Unclean hooers.
Absolutely. Like medieval Christians couldn't lend money to each other with interest, so they just found a Jewish person, and used them as an intermediary as they could lend/owe with interest to non Christians just fine lol
And my medieval example is completely topical cause these religions have hardly advanced since then.
What is this, a god for loopholes?
There's a lot of this in Abrahamic scripture. The nice treatment of slaves, for instance, only applies to fellow Israelites who sell themselves into servitude. Non-Israelites can be bought, sold, kept forever, bred (and their kids are slaves too), and even killed with impunity.
Biblical scholar Dan McClellan notes that people from every age have to negotiate with sacred texts to affirm the ethos of their time and explain away those parts that don't work anymore. And this is true with all religions whether Jewish, Hellenic, Wotanic, Shinto or whatever.
So yes, in Islam, sex work is haram until it isn't.
I remember when Dan said that yelling at the podcast "hey you don't have to do anything. Just admit the texts are garbage and there is no god."
It is so so much easier knowing that I will never have to explain away slavery again.
That's literally in their book, it's not even rape. let alone wrong at all, if the victim isn't Muslim, with a small exception for married women regardless of faith.
Could you point me to where it is in the quran?
Quran 2:223 & 65:4, and the Hadith Qudsi.
I looked at the verses you mentioned, and did not find what you’re stating. Also, HQ is not a verse per se, as far as I can tell from looking it up.
Unreliable source, have you read it? The evidence they cite for their interpretation of the Quran has nothing to do with the content therein.
I'm starting to feel you know and just don't like it. Which is fair, it's kinda awful.
No I don’t know, so I could be wrong. I am not making any claims about being a religious scholar or learned in this. But just reading what’s written in those verses and comparing it against the text of the wiki, I can’t logically make the connection between the interpretation and the source material. Anyway, I wouldn’t worry about proving your point, religious texts (especially of the Abrahamic variety) have been ruining lives since their inception. Hopefully we can move on as a society while condemning people who rely on religious texts to persecute or subjugate.
Well if course. The other tribes are humans but not people. This is pretty freaken universal for conservatives everywhere.
You're looking for logic in the wrong place
Ah, yes. The degree of sin is inversely congruent to the length of your clitoris.
Then why do they paint and sculpt angels with tiny pps
Pps, clits, same difference biologically speaking.
Classic Abrahamic reasoning.
nah from what i read their prophet started out declaring 3 women to be the right legit amount and when getting older he increased the number. like the pervert that guy was, his followers now are.
Source?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygyny_in_Islam
If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice. — Qur'an, Sura 4 (An-Nisa), Ayah 3[1]
so you start out with 2, 3 or 4 and then proceed to have at least 9 wives.
How does this indicate that he changed it as he aged?
Reading through the page...
Noteworthy was the fact that it was customary for men to marry women without limit, a practice that ended with the advent of the Qur'an and its divine revelation.
So it increased as he aged but it was bigger before?
"Prostitutes are going to hell anyway, so might as well fuck 'em."
Also, "I'm still pure, I'm not the one who's female while selling my trade." this is how the goddamned Middle Ages remain among us. Lazy mindless hypocrisy.
Both monetizing their bodies, yet somehow this asshole is above it all, sees it fit to preach at the end, probably drove off with a smug superiority on one hand, on the other that inescapable self-hatred bubbling mighty close to the surface, post-orgasm. They know there's something wrong, and they zeroed in on the wrong thing while yelling "Mary had a little lamb little lamb little lamb".
It's like in that John Waters film Pecker, when some kid gets caught with no pants at a gay bar - "Mom, I'm not queer! Queers blow me! I'm still straight!"
This hypocrisy is not an Islam or Muslim issue or unique to this religion. Racists like pretending otherwise, and then justifying genocide in Palestine.
First sentence: 10/10, this comment is going someplace good.
Second Sentence: how did we get to Palestine? What happened?
Sorry! I kinda made a leapt because that’s the kind of rhetoric I see around. Maybe unneeded in this case.
Just one more baby, that'll teach Hamas
he said between bites of his McRib
What I want to know is: did he have sex with her anyway?
Yes. As it would turn out, they both had a ~~punishment~~ hell kink, so this exchange only got them more excited ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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