It's bizarre the Republican base is so firmly behind Trump. A normal Republican would probably win given Biden's unpopularity, but the prospect of another Trump presidency is enough to get people to vote for anything with a D on it.
Eh. The entire republican party is rotted to the core. Everyone continuing to fall in line after Jan 6th demonstrated that beyond any doubt.
If you were to rewind the clock 20 years, and regular republican could probably beat Biden. But it's not just the president. It's the entire party. And I hope enough people would understand that enough to not vote a "normal" republican in.
But the fact that it seems close to half the voters in this country actually want blatant corruption, abuse of powers, and straight facism. It's mind blowing.
It really revealed every ounce of corruption in this country. All is found in shadows.
It's cute how everyone is pretending there'll ever be another election if Trump gets back in. He'll feel spitted, and giving up the presidency a second time will literally feel like an existential issue for him.
For Trump leaving office will be the equivalent of feeling like he's dying, publically and shamefully.
It’s almost as if they think Dictator For A Day™ is somehow something that will actually only last a day.
It's fine, just make whatever rules you want! I'm sure we'll still have the power to stop you when we're tired of your tantrum!
Worse than that, some people think they'll just start a rebellion.
Like bruh, he'll have control of the military. 100,000,000 people with semi-auto rifles are no match for tanks, helicopters, and people with training.
The military isn't made of stormtroopers. The oath of both enlistment and commissioned officers is to the Constitution, not the president; specifically to defend it against "all enemies, foreign and domestic".
He'd get himself assassinated, likely by a military servicemember in accordance with their sworn obligation.
Just because you swear an oath doesn’t mean you will feel like sticking your life on the line to sneak past the secret service and assassinate a domestic enemy president. At best, the military might refuse some unlawful orders.
Imagine all the illegal stuff a trump will need in office in order to refill his treasury. How much he would have to sell (secrets). Imagine.
A black guy was in my store recently saying he's voting for Trump. I asked him why, he literally hates your people, and his response left the most twisted look on my face: "get money".
Obviously, I had no response
Yeah, I was working with a black guy that had a maga hat. He eventually brought it up and I pointed that out. His reply? "He's right, I hate them too."
You work with Clarence Thomas?
Heh, no, just some dude that only lasted a couple weeks. It's a black owned charity, staffed with mainly black people. He wasn't fired on the spot, but he didn't return the following week. We all now call him The South side Uncle Ruckus. The worst part is he was there due to the work requirement of receiving welfare. A lot of his political bitching was about people sitting at home, leaching off the government, and how this is what has ruined the black community.
That's different, he's one of the good ones. He's just down on his luck and going through hard times, he's not a lazy freeloader just taking money on the government dole.
Those are two completely different situations, don't you know. One happens to him after all.
(I've literally heard the first part verbatim multiple times in conversations like that. Its mind blowing how close they get to understanding.)
It's funny, both haha and sad. The first time I heard the "one of the good ones" line was from my racist uncle about the black guy he worked with. As the years went on it became apparent every black person my uncle got to know, at all, was "one of the good ones". One time I told my uncle that every black person he ever really met turned out to be "a good one", so, like, maybe that's because he is wrong?
That wasn't the reason of course.
Good ole Uncle Ruckus. No relation.
hmmm, should i vote for an old guy who believes in democracy or should I vote for a useful idiot to the russians who hates minorites whether it be gender or sexual preference and whatnot and would hand ukraine over to putin in a silver platter, undermine nato any way possible for daddy putin and also crown himself king and end all further elections while imprisoning his enemies and all the other things he lied about and said were being done to him.....
damn, I can't really figure it out! I can't stop WaVeRiNg!!!!!!!
GODDAMN MORONS ARE GOING TO KILL US ALL, JESUS CHRIST
I understand the wavering. I voted uncommitted in my primary because Biden will win that without my help and it's a small way of officially filing my disappointment. But if (let's be honest, when) I get my presidential ballot and I have a choice between Trump and Biden and probably some third party, I'll hold my nose and cast a vote for Biden. As much as I hate it, it's not even a question.
this isn't working anymore. people are getting numb to the "boogeyman" technique
dems have to offer something people want, otherwise the right is going to take over
and i think it's too late by now
Boogymen aren't real. This is not that. And the Left never had that. Right wing terrorism boogymen fund wars.
Maybe instead of always forcing us to vote for the lesser of two evils, the democrats should take a second, listen to their base, and actually run someone competent.
Because right now, there is zero difference between how the republicans would handle this genocide and how the democrats are handling it. Both parties are in the pockets of oil companies and billionaires, and don't want a change to the status quo.
Yes voting democrat is marginally better, but it's not as vast a chasm as people like to make out. The system itself is broken - fucking around in the system isn't going to fix it. It needs to be smashed and then rebuilt back up
Because the Democrats are capitalists, and what's good for the gander isn't necessarily good for the goose, to flip the old cliche on its head. They know how to make things happen during an election year, and the other 3 years are spent enriching federal contractors. But again, unless people are prepared to have the revolution today, Biden is the only vote.
Joe Biden had a disapproval rating of 55% before Oct 7th. He wasn't doing well before Israel's retaliation and he is doing worse now. I don't think its really all the fault of progressives protesting in a primary.
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-BIDEN/POLL/nmopagnqapa/
I can't believe we've voted for the lesser of two evils for an entire generation, to the point that the lesser evil is a strike breaking, border wall building, senile octogenarian that's bypassing Congress to sell arms to a genocidal ethnostate, and liberals still can't come up with a better alternative.
I'm almost 38 now and I've pretty much never had a president to be excited for. In my previous ignorance I was excited for Obama and then quickly let down by the system that kill any progress.
I really don't know what I should have expected from a country that was completely built on greed. Everyone that started it to the people that moved here (immigrants want a better future = they(we, we're all children of immigrants) want more money = build businesses = greed. Everything about this country is about money money money. That's literally it.
America is the land of the fee, home of the billionaire.
"If you hate it so much why don't you leave!?" Oh my freindo I wish I could.
This whole "lesser evil" narrative is daft and it needs to stop.
If I had an army of bots and got paid to help GOP win the election I would make and upvote comments exactly like this one.
Biden is not the POTUS you "want" in a fairytale idealist kind of way. Deal with it.
The "both parties are just as bad as each other" angle only helps one side, and it ain't progressive.
This election is going to be a choice between getting shit smeared on your face or getting shit injected into your veins- you hate both options to the core, but only one is survivable.
No. Biden is like being made to eat your vegetables. They might not taste good but you have to do it.
Voting for Trump and Republicans is like eating shit for money. Everyone is going to be worse off, oh and only the people on top get paid for it. Everyone else is just screwed.
Mmmm, vegetables are good for you. Voting for Biden is not a total catastrophe, but he's not a strong leader or a great influence on the world. He's a functioning adult, and we badly need him to win, but let's not pretend that the progressives who don't love the guy are wishing we had cake and ice cream for dinner.
Don't taste good?
Given all Biden is doing for women with abortion and ivf, he’s getting kids breakfast and lunch money, he’s helping reduce college loan disasters, Medicare is going after pharmas that price gouge, he’s the first president ever to join union members on the picket line, I could go on.
It is not perfect and it isn't 5 Michelin star quality but it definitely tastes good.
Aside from this whole Israel/Genocide thing, Biden has been a pretty solid leader despite a completely dysfunctional congress.
How ever will someone choose between one candidate who is unacceptable and another who is acceptable. Tough one.
Hopefully this time Biden doesn't tell black people who won't vote for them they aren't black. That really didn't help him win them over last time.
Biden: If you don't vote Biden you ain't black. Black person: * doesn't vote * 🎉 White privilege obtained 🎉 Thanks ~~Obama~~ Biden
Two old pieces of shit way past their expiration date.
Biden is just not a good candidate. Swap him out. Pull some one off the back benches if you need to.
Only requirements are that they are breathing, and are eight years younger than normal retirement age, and they'll likely be doing better than Biden is rn.
Oh you mean all of those people on the back bench that Biden beat once already?
The people that, unlike Biden, have never beaten Trump in an election?
The people who aren't the incumbent president when history shows a very clear pattern of voters choosing to re-elect incumbents?
I mean come on, Biden didn't win the democratic nomination. It was handed to him on super-Tuesday. Bloomberg was just vomiting money to get easy media attention and then just dropped out. Elizabeth Warren was polling well then suddenly backed out, and all the super-delegates (something that shouldn't exist) had pledged their votes well before the actual convention. Then all that was left was Bernie who got smoked because there was no time to recover
Sure you could argue that's savvy political maneuvering which is what you want in a president but my point is that Biden didn't successfully campaign as much as he let other people do it and then got their support. Something he can't repeat as an incumbent
Before anyone says anything, I'm voting for him, I'm just trying to avoid revisionist history
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