Isnt that how all social media sites start out. Starts with nerd culture and eventually other people come in later?
Exactly my thoughts. Back in the day when I joined the Instagram in the first month of launch there were only professional photographers posting some great stuff, it was fun until celebs and general public started using it.
Those darn celebrities, always ruining people's fun on social media.
I wonder when one of them is going to show up on Lemmy...
!usernamechecksout@lemmy.zip I hope you are not the real one ;-)
Of course I am.
Would esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress (and producer) Margot Robbie ever lie to you on the internet?
Some would say that acting is the grandest lie.
So normies are the original enshittifiers, then corporations come in. I knew it, I should have stayed a shut-in.
"Eternal September"
That's how pixelfed is right now (Fediverse Instagram replacement)
Starts with nerd culture
In a nutshell, this is the perfect social media for me!
That's how social media was invented. I remember when computers were things that only geeks and nerds were into. And then Neverending September happened, and suddenly normies were everywhere on the internet. We create something new to congregate, and they just invite themselves in after we make it popular. MySpace, Facebook, Reddit...even IRC and Geocities were taken over by them. We eventually took back Usenet at least, but only because it stopped being free for most people.
Political science? Hmm, switch to all communities and sort for new. Have fun.
Haha, the appeal of political science to me is less about arguing with strangers about the news and more talking about broader philosophies and theories and then applying them to what we are seeing in the world. I feel like I can have a more nuanced conversation about the prisoner's dilemma with regards to x topic, or applying philosophies like American Pragmatism to solving problems.
Talking about the news without using some of the tools political scientists use has so many emotional trip wires that it can feel like I'm just keeping up with the Kardashians. That said sometimes I just can't help but keep up with the Kardashians.
I still don't understand the Linux memes.
- Meme about how hard it is to maintain a Linux machine.
- Meme about how Windows is the worst for your machine.
- Meme about how gullable new Linux users are to bad advice from experiwnced Linux users.
It's like squirting lemon in your eye is the point, and if you don't do it you're one of them. Maybe I'm just not bitter enough in life to get it.
Edit: Oh...
- Meme about Linux dominating a niche developer thing that most developers wouldn't notice, let alone the end user.
to be fair the 3 first points only apply to arch, the same people to say "i use arch btw" so you know they also hate themselfs
edit: 50% of devs use linux so the 4th point isn't that true
Rant incoming, so ignore if you're just here for the memes.
The Linux community as a whole seems to still be delusional about the real world outside power users, and it hasn't changed much in the last 25 years from everything I've seen. Distros have come and gone, some better than others, but the community as a whole is still living in a fantasy world about the "year of the Linux desktop". And it's the reason quite frankly that Linux in it's current form will never be a daily driver for the average user. Even though it would actually work for probably 30-40% of the population that just uses a web browser without any issue out of the box, as soon as they have an issue, the community would be impossible to find actual useful help from for these users. There are enough toxic Linux users to anyone that doesn't know the basics. It's almost as toxic as the League of Legends community with some distros. That leaves a permanent bad taste for all of Linux for the average user that comes across just one of these posts. Not to mention little to no support from places like Geek Squad, which is where the real average users take their systems. Even checking online themselves is heading out of average user territory in the first place.
The other main issue is that there are productivity mainstays on Windows that don't have a true Linux version. There are Linux alternatives but they quite frankly aren't the same, and the average user doesn't want to have to deal learning something new or with file format differences and not being able to just do what they already do.
My mother for instance several years ago tried to switch to a Chromebook when she needed a new laptop. She only uses a web browser and Microsoft Word through Google Drive and Gmail. Seems like a Chromebook would be a good fit for an ultra portable and lightweight system with WiFi 90% of the time. She is definitely able to search the internet well and find answers on her own, she is better than the average user due to learning from me breaking things constantly as I grew up. So even her handling of the situation would be more than many users. This was before the stripped down online versions of Office apps existed, so you had Google Docs, and the Linux alternatives like OpenOffice, which did not seamlessly support DOC/DOCX files for users who primarily work with those and need to have those types to send. Even now though the web version of Office is stripped down, some of that stuff just isn't available without the full software. Google Docs was essentially not compatible with regular Word documents at the time, everything had to be converted to Google's format and then exported back to a DOC, and constantly having to remember to save files as an alternate format just to send them off to others for further edits or distribution from their systems was a lot of unnecessary work, easily forgotten that just wasted time. Not to mention getting her head around the idea of cloud storage vs local storage if there was no WiFi available for some reason. Google Drive on Windows has a nice visual indicator of backed up stuff, and it's all stored locally by default as well. It just works for the average user. This is something that Apple does extremely well with their walled garden. They hide the magic and user is never the wiser because it just works for them without getting in the way, you just HAVE to use their system for that experience.
Those are the issues the average person already knows how to do with Windows and even OSX with the current applications they use daily. Switching to Linux is not just changing the look of the computer and the engine under the hood, there are other usability changes as well. Individually they aren't a big deal, but adding them all up, the average user just ends up deciding another Windows system is easier or trying OSX instead to go with their iPhone. Unless the user has someone they know personally that is willing to help those users with every tiny issue, without complaint, or they are savvy enough to handle a good internet search for specific error information and find a community willing to be just as helpful, avoiding the toxic users, they're just going to decide it's bad generally and stop using it, probably forever.
Linux must be objectively better than Windows in major ways to get the average person to jump ship and learn something new, dealing with all the small issues and differences they'll come across.
The various Linux communities need to be careful what they wish for IMO, would it be great for market share to get onboard with Linux? Absolutely.
But like you said, things will have to be dumbed down and hidden extensively.
At the same time whenever a piece of Linux software or distro takes ANY step whatsoever in this direction, the backlash from the community can get rather large. They're trying to have their cake and eat it too.
IMO Linux is great the way it is, low market share and all, and we all know what happens when something starts catching on with the general public...
I’ll have you know that I wrote a semi-functional webpage in HTML when I was in college 😎
My Angelfire page is still up and running.
I'm glad you're here. Now there are at least two of us!
There are dozens of us! Dozens!
My education background is nursing and social work. I've only ever used Windows and very surface level. I've never programmed anything, the closest I've gotten to anything technical is troubleshooting a game that I've modded to within an inch of its life.
Though I'm picking up an old laptop from a school surplus next Monday to wipe and begin exploring Linux. My only other experience with Linux is the interface of my housemates NAS (which I use only to manage a plex and valheim server)
I'm an IT tutor in a community centre - basically just teaching grandma how to close all her iPhone apps. No experience or formal qualifications needed. If you can be patient while showing seniors the basics of the devices they've got at home, you're hired.
Our organisation currently pays too much for an IT managed service provider, who doesn't provide a comprehensively managed service, so my boss wants to end their contact and hire me as a dedicated IT management officer. My boss is 75 and is confident in my abilities because she thinks power cycling the router when the internet goes out is an amazing and high level skill, but I know enough to know how much I don't know. But I also know I can learn.
So maybe in a year or so I'll understand more of the jokes on lemmy.
Not a programmer either, nurse in a psychiatric hospital. But I am interested in FOSS and web 3.0.
What web 3.0 implies are great, what it actually is in its current form is not. Simply focusing on FOSS should be enough for now and there's a shit ton of really good FOSS like this medical practise software as well as stuff inspired by Open Source culture itself like the Open Source Ecology.
No correlation I hope.
Python? Where? All I see is people praising Rust here. Also, Ubuntu? That's the most hated Linux distro on Lemmy.
So this supports my point completely. No fuckin clue what you're saying.
Gottem
Fuck openai
A corporate going down in history for the abuse of word open despite being anything but
Their entire business is constructed by harvesting the open internet, then keeping the end result closed. Yet they are called "open"AI.
Bring on the political science and jazz posts! Would love to see them around.
Hey, I studied jazz too! Now I'm working on becoming a sysadmin lol
Music and programming both have a sort of logic to them
I'm not a programmer either, but I am a Linux and open source user so I can at least wade through the waters, lol
Same here. I count the days until it's discovered that I'm just a normie who agrees with the ideology of open source, and am hanged for my crimes of not knowing what a "cron" is, thinking stdout has to do with diseases, or wanting to play video games with 0 troubleshooting haha.
This incident will be reported
I sir am a Linux engineer and resent your insinuation that I'm a programmer.
I know a little bit of Python thanks to ren'py, and I have Linux on my Steam Deck, so... I guess I'm in transition?
Not long before I have programmer socks and start binge watching Star Trek 👍
To make things more confusing, I program, I use linux, and I talk about all of these stuff, but I am not a programmer :p .
In the early days, it was laborwave and esoteric websites, the programmer humor seems relatively new to me
I studied both political science and programming.
I can't think of a good joke, but I wanted to share.
you are one of us now...
You will assimilate
For representational reasons, I miss the logo of the Rust programming language, but I have the hint of an idea why the creator of the meme didn’t put it in there.
Memes
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.