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[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 184 points 5 months ago

Killing that guy should fix this.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 137 points 5 months ago

What do you mean "a whistleblower in the middle of testifying against Boeing's shoddy and unsafe construction practices decides to off himself in a hotel parking lot" isn't normal?

[-] glowie@h4x0r.host 42 points 5 months ago

Two bullet wounds to the back of the head is perfectly normal. Happens all the time.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Did you just make that up?

[-] glowie@h4x0r.host 42 points 5 months ago

No. Gary Webb, the reporter from the San Jose Mercury News who first broke the story of CIA involvement in the cocaine trade, was found dead with "two gunshot wounds to the head." His death, in 2004, was ruled a suicide.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Oh. I didn't realize you were talking about a completely different event.

[-] suppenloeffel@feddit.de 9 points 5 months ago

The first shot went through his face, and exited at his left cheek. The coroner's staff concluded that the second shot hit an artery.

Not quite the back of the head.

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[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 87 points 5 months ago

Wonder how many C-level execs get in trouble? /s

[-] Oneser@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago

I don't think this ends in beheadings, but there will (hopefully) be significant follow on effects. A threat to consumer confidence in flying is a risk to the entire industry, all Boeing's competitors and the airlines will be screaming for the FAA to get the actions right here...

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[-] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

I ran the calculations, but I got a divide by zero error

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[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

It's funny I know someone who's an exec at Boeing Space, which is practically a completely different company and 99% a gov contractor. Let's just say the SLS hassss to work flawlessly because its got "Boeing" written all over its parts, luckily NASA is leading the project so it'll probably go as planned.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

That has got to be a depressing job. I can't imagine the pain of being involved in starliner and SLS.

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Not sure why you are getting down votes. Nobody wants SLS, even NASA. Congress is proping it up for pork

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[-] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 77 points 5 months ago

Is "dozens" a large amount?

Never-nudes: no

Safety flaws in aircraft production: yes

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This reminds me so much of a client I had a while back. Safety inspector found one possible violation and what followed was a scream fest with cussing on the floor. Suddenly a lot more violations were found.

Edit: just in case there is any confusion. If you happen to be running a factory or a construction site the correct response to a a safety inspector telling you about a violation is "you are right, I am sorry, we will come up with a plan to make sure this isnt going to happen moving forward". The incorrect response is pissing the hell out of the safety inspector. However, if you hate the place feel free to get your revenge.

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[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 38 points 5 months ago

If Boeing stock drops another $30 or so, I'm going to have to buy some.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

I really, really hate capitalism most days but play the game I suppose.

lol yep, this describes my outlook as well. I can play the game, and I’m actually decent at it, but the game is absolutely, categorically awful, and it’d be great for humanity at large if we could all stop playing it.

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[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Username checks out?

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[-] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 23 points 5 months ago

Are these facilities not regularly audited by a 3rd party to maintain their ISO certifications? The stuff mentioned in the article (key card feeler gauge...WTF!?) would/should have been caught in any routine audit.

[-] _lilith@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago

They are audited by FAA "compliance officers" who conveniently are employees of the company they are auditing. No conflict of interest at all

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 26 points 5 months ago

Base pay $25,000
Performance related bonus per quarter:
0 issues found: $25,000
1+ issues found: $0

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[-] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's absolutely insane...why is it not a requirement to have audits performed by a third party, or the FAA themselves? This is laughably ridiculous, especially for an industry that claims to be focused on safety and quality.

[-] Darkaga@kbin.social 30 points 5 months ago

The term you're looking for is "regulatory capture."

[-] kureta@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 months ago
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[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

That's bullshit. FAA audits some things, but quality audits are third party. Here it's usually SAI global.

[-] C126@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

Dude. Regulatory agencies are corrupt as heck. There's no incentive to be a good auditor and actually dig deep to find issues and lots of incentive to have no findings. They're all buddies with the management.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

We get AS9100 audits routinely. Also, for sub-tiers, we get customer audits.

The key card is fucking hilarious and I am going to give some friends some shit for that. But, no, every process isn't fully audited constantly. Any employee in visual distance should have called that shit out, though. It's not hard to get a feeler gauge stack or even a custom ground go/no go. Though would they know to check their feeler stack with a mic? Not likely if they think using a key card is reasonable.

[-] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Why do boeing planes sound like Linux file permissions?

Edit: typo

[-] kevincox@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

737 is a very unusual file permission. But IIRC it actually works as intended. The group that owns the file can't read it but can write and execute, everyone else can. However I suspect you can probably figure out a way to drop the relevant group?

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Few of them make sense, but 787 raises the most questions.

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Aah, the famous hotel-key-card feeler gauge! 🥹

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

I've used my badge before, but not for production processes. It's more of a 'damn that gap is big' thing.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 13 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A six-week audit by the Federal Aviation Administration of Boeing’s production of the 737 Max jet found dozens of problems throughout the manufacturing process at the plane maker and one of its key suppliers, according to a slide presentation reviewed by The New York Times.

Last week, the agency announced that the audit had found “multiple instances” in which Boeing and the supplier, Spirit AeroSystems, failed to comply with quality-control requirements, though it did not provide specifics about the findings.

Since the Alaska Airlines episode, Boeing has come under intense scrutiny over its quality-control practices, and the findings add to the body of evidence about manufacturing lapses at the company.

At one point during the examination, the air-safety agency observed mechanics at Spirit using a hotel key card to check a door seal, according to a document that describes some of the findings.

Asked about the appropriateness of using a hotel key card or Dawn soap in those situations, a spokesman for Spirit, Joe Buccino, said the company was “reviewing all identified nonconformities for corrective action.”

The audit raised concerns about the Spirit technicians who carried out the work and found that the company “failed to determine the knowledge necessary for the operation of its processes.”


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[-] mox 6 points 5 months ago
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