113
submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by puff@hexbear.net to c/movies@hexbear.net

It's like someone asked ChatGPT to turn the book into a dumb anglo sitcom.

-Every character is emotionally immature, spiteful, and sassy. None of the 'friends' act like friends. None of the characters talk like real people. They're constantly insulting or hitting each other. It's just embarrassing. The actors have nothing to work with.

-All the major twists/reveals are shown in the first two episodes. No suspense, no build-up, no pay-off. Rushed is an understatement.

-Single characters from the book have been unnecessarily split into multiple new characters adding nothing to the story.

-The story is a cosmic horror but comedy and romance have been forced in for no reason whatsoever except as filler, which is even more mind-boggling because they've essentially rushed all of the good stuff in the book to make room for unfunny jokes.

-Apparently they could barely afford any sets and extras, so scenes and locations that are supposed to be bristling with sights and people just feel oddly empty. Even the special effects feel muted. The budget is just weirdly limited, and the show looks much cheaper than the Tencent series.

-Almost all of the science (which is the interesting stuff) has been gutted from this science fiction.

I hate anglo slop. Where is the kino. Tencent pls adapt The Dark Forest.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] booty@hexbear.net 55 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Every character is emotionally immature, spiteful, and sassy. None of the 'friends' act like friends. None of the characters talk like real people. They're constantly insulting or hitting each other. It's just embarrassing. The actors have nothing to work with.

-All the major twists/reveals are shown in the first two episodes. No suspense, no build-up, no pay-off. Rushed is an understatement.

Does every netflix adaptation get written by the same exact people?

[-] puff@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago

I don't know if they all go to the same writing school but my hypothesis is that this is how writing schools are teaching everyone to write stories these days. It's everywhere.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago

My money is on it being focus group/analysis/exec driven. Makes more sense as a common denominator.

[-] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

Could also be because the showrunners are Benioff and Weiss, who got addicted to cliffhangers and shock value to keep increasing Game of Thrones viewership.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] bruhbeans@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 months ago

I blame the MCU for this. It was always a thing, but the Marvel movies turned it up to 11 and made bank off it

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Does every netflix adaptation get written by the same exact people

Yes, the data from Netflix's user base and algorithm basically writes the episodes. That's how Netflix's version of House Of Cards with Kevin Spacey was made. They just jammed all the most popular stuff, according to Netflix user data, into one show, and that's how House Of Cards was mad. That's why all these similarities in Netflix shows exist. With AI it's just going to get worse. We're officially in the era of algorithically driven shows.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 44 points 6 months ago

None of the 'friends' act like friends.

nobody remembers what friends were like

[-] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's bad folks

The Chinese tv show has 30 episodes. Meanwhile 5 episodes into the Netflix series and the story is already farther along than the entire Chinese first season . This is not an exaggeration.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

Is Nexflix doing the whole trilogy? In a miniseries basically?

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[-] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago

I could watch it, but the pacing really is a problem. The show rushes out answers to questions that it would have been fun to have some time to think about. Also, really egregious use of CGI for things they really shouldn't have to use it for. The not being able to afford extras thing seems very apparent there as well. In an army of 30 million of course you're going to have to use CGI, but standard practice would be to have the first rank of soldiers - the ones really close to the camera - be played by real people. No such luck here I'm afraid.

[-] idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago

The show rushes out answers to questions that it would have been fun to have some time to think about.

The new Percy Jackson series did this too. There is lots to praise about the new adaptation, but the plot feels rushed, propelled forth by characters having sudden realisations multiple times per episode.

[-] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

the live action ATLA also has similar problems.

[-] puff@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

The rehydration scene is supposed to feature millions of Trisolarans. There's like 10 on screen.

[-] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

They did have the millions of soldiers for the computer lol, but the rehydration scene was just an excuse to awooga afaic

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago

I've looked up what the ending of the books is and it sounds like the main conflict is resolved via deus ex machina and then everyone dies anyway so nothing that happened mattered at all

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago

Yup. And the only reason any of the plot can even happen is totally bogus space magic that's so silly you can't even call it soft sci-fi. I gave up after the first book, and I really have nothing good to say about it. I've heard people opine that it was a lot of people's first science fiction book the same way Harry Potter was a lot of kids first fantasy adventure book, and that's why it had such an impact.

load more comments (75 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[-] LaForgeRayBans@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago

The TenCent series does some things better, does some things worse. Netflix arguably had better character chemistry. Three Body Problem is a good story, but its message is a bad one, if humans encounter aliens and the first thing we do is not bring up communism than that’s unrealistic sci-fi.

[-] puff@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

By chemistry you mean everyone constantly saying "shut the fuck up" and elbowing or punching each other? It's just toxic.

[-] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

But we need to boost this series though, otherwise we will never see a rendition of the far future where every man on earth is a femboy.

[-] Krem@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There was really a bunch of weird stuff in Death's End about how this or that era could "produce real men" or not. Hard times and soft times cycle level stuff.

[-] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

Ikr lmao the justification for it is evidence they allow reddit in china: "bro just trust me, the more advanced soyciety becomes, the more effeminate the men get due to a lack of necessity for manual labor, just trust me bro..."

I mean I wouldnt mind living in a time where all the men wore makeup and dressed all cute, boggles one's mind how the author tried to make this out to be a bad thing lol

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

monkey's paw curls

The Daily Wire adapts it and quadruples down on the misogyny.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I don’t understand how they could fuck it up so badly.

I was willing to give the show creators a chance and even had a lot of expectations from them because the first few seasons of GoT were great, but here it’s like they don’t understand the source materials and don’t know how to tell a good story at all (no tension, no buildups). The “Who has a better story than Bran” meme sounds so fitting now that I’ve seen what they have done to the TBP.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

what do you want to bet they actually used chatgpt to write this

[-] puff@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago

It easily could be. The other problem is that it's so obviously a product of focus groups of soccer moms and lib millennials. They try so hard to make things with something for everybody, e.g. comedy, romance, action, thriller, scifi, fantasy all mashed into ONE film/show and it's just a fucking mess. STOP trying to please everyone. Not every film/show has to be watched by three billion people.

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago

it's extremely funny because one piece LA was their most watched show for awhile (may still be) and it straight up said haha eff you this is anime rubberman bullshit all the way down - and that's what brought in people who'd never consider watching a 1k episode anime (myself included). these studios will never learn that genuine love for the source material and an earnest attempt to do it justice draws in so many more eyes than cheap, patronizing pandering that barely conceals the studio's contempt for their audience.

[-] ultraviolet@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] angrytoadnoises@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 6 months ago

I'm really loving the three body problem but I'm completely unfamiliar with the original novels. The show at least got me greatly interested in the premise. Was going to read the novels anyway but this post might convince me to pick them up sooner rather than later.

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The books are great, though expect some brainworms from a boomer Chinese nationalist. Otherwise I always tell people that if you want to understand how Chinese people think about the world (generalizing here of course), read the TBP series.

There have been so many times throughout the books that the author totally nailed how the Chinese society would typically respond to foreign threats or global events, and I just had to nod my head along and said, “yes, it truly is a very Chinese story”, though this layer of meaning would certainly be missed by the vast majority of Western readers.

Very relevant to the current US-China relationship as well. It worries me that Obama liked the books - if he truly understands China and how naive it could be, then we’re screwed.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

how Chinese people think about the world

Is total utter nihilism and misanthropy that common?

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Which characters were nihilistic and misanthropic? Luo Ji was probably the one arguably to be borderline nihilistic (which made him a great Wallfacer), but most of the characters were naive and optimistic to a fault.

load more comments (8 replies)
[-] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Just gonna quote myself here

it's a Sci-Fi parable about Chinese foreign policy from the perspective of the Chinese (you need to keep your head down and not draw attention to yourself or the ~~Trisolarans~~ American Empire will come get you, humanity is the China stand in in the novel)

load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 26 Mar 2024
113 points (99.1% liked)

movies

22818 readers
399 users here now

Rules for Movies & TV Discussion

  1. Any discussion of Disney properties should contain a (cw: imperialism) tag. If your post isn't tagged appropriately it will be removed.

  2. Anti-Bong Joon-ho trolling will result in an immediate ban from c/movies and submitted to the site administrators for review.

  3. On Star Trek Sunday only posts discussing how we might achieve space communism are permitted. Non-Star Trek related content will be removed and you will be temporarily banned until the following Sunday.

Here's a list of tons of leftist movies.

AVATAR 3

Perverts Guide to Ideology

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS