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[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 188 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Google photos and apple have been doing it for years too, they’re like we found this person 50 times in your photo collection, why don’t you name them?

[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 72 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Apple, afaik, used to be doing this on-device rather than in the cloud. Not quite sure about the situation today.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t. Corps gonna corp, if they can. But I’ve checked this using all the development, networking, and energy monitoring tools at my disposal and apple’s e2e and on-device guarantee does appear to hold. For now.

Still, those who can should audit periodically, even if they’re only doing it for the settlement.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Security is in my interest, but yw

[–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were inferencing a cnn on a mobile device? I have no clue but that would be costly battery wise at least.

[–] didnt_readit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They’ve been doing ML locally on devices for like a decade. Since way before all the AI hype. They’ve had dedicated ML inference cores in their chips for a long time too which helps the battery life situation.

[–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

It couldn’t quite be a decade, a decade ago we only just had the vgg — but sure, broad strokes, they’ve been doing local stuff, cool.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is why it's worth the time to set up Immich.

It even has the same kind of AI object and face recognition as in Google Photos, but it's your own cloud setup and self-hosted software, so all of the data is entirely yours and nobody else's. It's downright strange to think of those things as actual features and not privacy violations.

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah it really bothers me that they’re not asking you to compromise only your data, they want you to give them info on your friends/family too (who obviously didn’t agree to the terms and conditions). Thanks for shouting out an alternative.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Amazon asked me to use their photos app to get a $20 gift certificate last week. I uploaded one photo, got the bonus money, deleted the app and used it to help buy a new monitor.

Sometimes these things can be turned into a win.

[–] Huschke@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So what you are saying is that you gave Amazon access to your device for 20$? Doesn't sound like a good deal to me.

[–] force@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and what would "access to your device" be (assuming this is android)?

[–] MajorSauce@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Quick guess from me would be permission to use the camera(s) and if they have some kind of file picker or gallery, permission to access all media files from your phone (and older versions of Android did not have this "media"distinction, so they would give access to all user files (excluding sandboxed paths)

[–] force@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You have to manually approve of giving each permission on Android, and camera and files/images are separate permissions (so giving access to the camera doesn't require giving access to your files). And you can make it so they only have access to it while you use the app. If you take a random picture and then uninstall, they get nothing except that random picture.

[–] MajorSauce@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indeed, and would you like to take a guess what % of Android user just accepts it as it is?

[–] force@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Presumably not anyone on Lemmy

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

apps are sandboxed. if all they did was upload one pic, what access did amazon really get? I'd do that for $20.

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao, so fucking true

It's like tricking a kid into eating their vegetables

[–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 93 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except vegetables are good for you.

[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's just what Big Vegetable wants you to think

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Big Vegetable will be the name of my next Stardew Valley farm.

[–] don@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds like something the Anti-Vegetable Coalition terrorists would say

[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Anti-Vegetable Coalition actually kinda exists though.

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You know, the trifecta of big food conglomerates (especially meat/dairy/egg-focused companies), livestock/feedstock farmers, and "conservative" politicians. None of them want you eating a healthy amount of vegetables. One might reasonably add pharmaceutical companies as well, because they profit off preventable diseases. So, I guess maybe it's four horsemen rather than a trifecta.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keeping in mind that the "training data" is also the "recognition database"

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

OP called out training data specifically, like that was the real problem.

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I think OP said training data, but meant recognition database. In a way, it's both, but they're talking about the same thing you are

Why did I read it as “Y’all so stupid”?