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Lemmy.ml welcome to the tankiezone (hexbear.net)
submitted 5 months ago by notceps@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net
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lemmy.ml is terribly moderated - how and where do you settle this?

I'm not quite sure how I best encourage this discussion - so I'll ask this here. I am somewhat shocked, how /c/worldnews@lemmy.ml is moderated. Large parts of the instance are in my view in tankie-territory like lemmygrad or hexbear, so much so that I find it borderline unaccaptable.

I question myself, how something like this could have consequences. Feddit has blocked both lemmygrad as well as Hexbear, lemmy.ml is several times larger and in many parts not problematic. Would that instance be blocked users would be unable to access a lot of content.

I ask myself, how do you settle this in the Fediverse, especially when it comes to larger instances. If the admins on feddit find the mods on lemmy.ml problematic, which avenues could they pursue to pressure them without defederating.

Other titles I thought about:

Feddit.de not beating the nazi instance allegations

Lemmy.ml welcome to the resistance

Also the incident that caused this very reasonable and very normal fedditor to get not mad at all

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[-] Zrc@hexbear.net 79 points 5 months ago

shoutout to feddit.de for once again proving that g*rmans shouldn't exist 07

[-] Ciel@lemmygrad.ml 65 points 5 months ago

as a german, i can confirm. most germams suck so bad arggggg

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 56 points 5 months ago

True, unification under Prussia was a mistake.

[-] Zrc@hexbear.net 44 points 5 months ago

they were never intended to be anything other than an absolute mess somewhere in the middle of europe

[-] huf@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

the alternative was unification under austria, a similarly unhinged state/people...

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Austrians at least have better cakes than their cousins in Germany

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 5 months ago

That would've been a improvement.

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 71 points 5 months ago

One condition of ending WW2 should have been the legal right to slap any German in the mouth if they set off a hitler-detector . Rallying the volk against the communist outsiders to defend another genocide? That's a slappin'. They get free speech like a dog that bites gets to walk with a muzzle until they prove they're safe again.

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 28 points 5 months ago

Rallying the volk against the communist outsiders to defend another genocide?

More than a slappin' xi-gun-1 xi-gun-2

[-] AutomatedPossum@hexbear.net 70 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The feddit.de thread on this is, as usual for that cursed instance, fucking gross, has a user named luxuslurch@feddit.de who pulls off shit like calling Jews antisemites for being against zionism, misgenders a user in the process, then calls the user whiny when being called out for the transphobia, then doubles down on that in the most ridiculous, privileged, ignorant manner possible. Hardcore transphobic brainworms at play there, that human dog turd outright refuses to use they / them pronouns in any context.

I'm not gonna make a feddit account to bully this fascist piece of shit, but if anybody has one, please report this fuckhead for repeated transphobia.

[-] notceps@hexbear.net 45 points 5 months ago

Yeah its an incredibly bad instance but most of it is just shitty bad and I just thought this was more funny bad because guy getting banned to then 4 hours later go and make a post about defeding is funny. As for the transphobia I wouldn't be surprised if the admins there will just hand wring about freedom of speech and shit like that.

[-] davel@hexbear.net 33 points 5 months ago

guy getting banned to then 4 hours later go and make a post about defeding

Many such cases, though usually it’s under an hour later.

[-] notceps@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

kitty-birthday-sad response time on the fediverse getting worse and worse, truly tis the end of everything.

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[-] AutomatedPossum@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago

Didn't know it's that bad there, given the content posted i had assumed they're at least radlibs. Granted, that doesn't mean much when both the antideutsche and anti-imperialist left in Germany have an entire wing of outspoken transphobes.

[-] notceps@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago

I've posted some of their threads in the past and they are just not alright, one standout one was when Yemen imposed a blockade a ton of people fell over themselves to say how much disgusted they are because now the west will just have to blow up brown people, or when that UNHRW was happening and they just had to say that 'of course Hamas has completely undermined that organisation we shouldn't give them any money at all this all makes perfect sense' like there's a reason that AfD (the most fascist party) is polling at 20%+ and feddit.de is just proof of it.

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 37 points 5 months ago

Im taking a break from feddit, a couple weeks ago my comment calling luxuslurch a fascist got deleted for being uncivil

[-] AutomatedPossum@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago

Did he have other topics than zionism and transphobia back then? I've looked at his comment history, but couldn't stand more than a week of it, and hating Palestinians and regularly sprinkling transphobia on top is literally the only thing that loser has posted about.

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

It used to be just zionism, seems he branched out. I also saw him making fatphobic comments.

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[-] disposable_cracker@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

Today is a good day to be a monolingual burger.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 67 points 5 months ago

I get a strong emphasis on fed from many feddit posts

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 61 points 5 months ago

I find it borderline unaccaptable.

ah fuck the mods forgot to ask this guy if their moderation was acceptable to him

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

I vote to remove this comment. All votes must be unanimous (no downvotes). All in favor?

See, moderation via democracy is not that hard. Worked for Elon.

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[-] edge@hexbear.net 61 points 5 months ago

German

banned for antisemitism

complains about tankies so I doubt he said something pro-Palestine

thonk

[-] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 41 points 5 months ago

He made some comments saying that Nazis partnered with Zionists is incredibly antisemitic.

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[-] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 60 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

not mad We should do something about these tankie guys, I'm not saying this because I'm mad that they won't let me be a bigot btw.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago

Tankies are taking away my Right To Free (hate) Speech Online! We should take away their right to speak too, only I am allowed to have opinions!

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[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 46 points 5 months ago

the whole of west germany should've been thrown in the gulag after the DDR took over, alas, we continue living in our doomed world that we have created kiryu-dame-da-ne

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[-] Pisha@hexbear.net 44 points 5 months ago

Someone needs to do a socio-linguistic study on Internet German, because it's the most grating way of writing I can imagine. It sounds like someone talking to a bureaucrat, a police officer and their close friends all at the same time. It's a policy paper crossed with a teenager. "Should the instance be blocked, users would lose access to a great amount of content. And I'm just wondering to myself, how can you solve issues like that?" How can anyone, let alone a whole country, stand this style of text?

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 38 points 5 months ago

Redditor germans have terminal debatebro. They are unable to engage with anything at face value, to them everything is an abstract talking point.

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 28 points 5 months ago

When your past and present is that fucked, you'd want to deal entirely in the abstract too.

(Takes one to know one ukkk )

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

I think it's the natural expression of anglophone debatebro culture in a language with a more clearly-defined formal register, but I only know a little German so idk

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[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I am confused as to why they are even bothered about this. Aren't there already instanxes like .world and lemm.ee which alongside being pretty big are cracker safe spaces as well? lemmy.ml has even stopped accepting registrations a while ago.

[-] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 42 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It makes them uncomfortable that somewhere there are tankies talking menacingly.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

For these people the whole world must be a cracker safe space

[-] davel@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think lemmy.ml has been accepting registrations continuously for at least the last 10 months.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago

germany-cool

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

freeze-peach stalin-gun-1stalin-gun-2

[-] flan@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

redditors dont know how the internet works do they

[-] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

blue-check Remember, citizen: a dead internet is a safe internet

[-] Faresh@lemmy.ml 32 points 5 months ago

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago

go back to being a dev instance

.ml is short for Machine Learning, right guys? Right?? bawllin-sad

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[-] ChairmanSpongebob@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago

you find it unacceptable? well then, log off

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago

Liberals will go to great lengths in demonizing anything communist while excusing their side from just about everything.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

specter-global

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

Deutschland uber alles fascists

[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

ACK, DAS MATERIALISTS! MODS HEP i-spil-my-jice

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