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[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 51 points 7 months ago

I love Megadeth, hate that Dave became a Trump supporting, anti vax, conspiracy nutjob.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

I could have gone without knowing this =(

[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

He became super religious, evangelical, and of course that led him on the road to right wing stupidity.

[-] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

Will never understand why becoming religious often means flushing ones brain down the toilet...

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

Because flushing your brain down the toilet is a prerequisite

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago

and one of them was outed as a nonce recently

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

There is no god 😑

[-] pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 7 months ago

A nonce like the mathematical extra used in cryptography?

[-] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 40 points 7 months ago

Its too bad both James and Dave are both first class d-bags. At least James tries to hide it

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 20 points 7 months ago

It's insane how hard of a 180 Dave pulled. Dude went from being an anarchist icon to hanging out with Alex Jones.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Money does awful things to people...

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago

Metallica is the reason that P2P file sharing is almost impossible post-Web 2.0. There's an argument to be made that someone else would've taken Napster to court if Metallica didn't, but they did, and the internet has been shit ever since. Fuck them and their friends who think their garbage variety of radio-friendly variety of Beer Metal is anything worth listening to

[-] Norgur@fedia.io 44 points 7 months ago

P2p is impossible? Wonder where all the music got into BitTorrent then.

[-] entropicdrift 27 points 7 months ago

Right? The person you replied to seems maybe unaware that P2P filesharing is doing better than ever

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 7 months ago

It was bad for like, a few months when Napster shut down. Then BOOM! Morpheus, Kazaa, Limewire, BearShare, Soulseek, Usenet, then the magical world of torrents! (RIP what.cd)

[-] Norgur@fedia.io 8 points 7 months ago
[-] entropicdrift 7 points 7 months ago

The high seas have never been more welcoming, me hearty!

Ye just need to navigate by the starrs!

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

we've been secretly paying for it the whole time!

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

This is the weirdest reasoning I've heard for the internet being sterile

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

The internet entered its sandman era post Metallica lawsuit

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 16 points 7 months ago

laughs in still using soulseek in 2024

[-] MenschlicherFehler@feddit.de 9 points 7 months ago

I mean... Soulseek is still going strong.

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[-] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 7 months ago

James Hetfield made a statement that he was happy for Metallica music to be used for torture in Guantanamo bay.

[-] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago
[-] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-40090809

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-pain-of-listening-using-music-as-a-weapon-at-guantanamo-a-672177.html

Metallica singer James Hetfield has said he is proud that his music is used against enemies of the US

Metallica's Enter Sandman had became a particular favourite at the height of the War on Terror, when US interrogators admitted using music to break the resistance of captives in Iraq. The goal was to deprive them of sleep and offend their cultural sensibilities.

Unco-operative prisoners were exposed to children's TV music from Sesame Street, and the purple singing dinosaur Barney.

Sergeant Mark Hadsell of the Psychological Operations Company (Psy Ops) told Newsweek magazine: "These people haven't heard heavy metal. They can't take it.

"If you play it for 24 hours, your brain and body functions start to slide, your train of thought slows down and your will is broken. That's when we come in and talk to them."

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 23 points 7 months ago
[-] 4am@lemm.ee 33 points 7 months ago

Oh, are you just now learning that America has been the bad guys pretty much since the beginning?

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 7 months ago

that's not the surprising part, the surprising part is hetfield actively condoning torture

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago

Ever since they ruined a perfectly good shipment of loose leaf tea

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Apart from Iceland, I wonder which countries are "the good guys"? Your virtuous indignation is adorable

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago
[-] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago

I don't know what to tell you; the same site has Hetfield making a statement that's pretty to the contrary:

https://blabbermouth.net/news/james-hetfield-is-honored-metallica-music-was-used-by-us-military-to-help-us-stay-safe

Asked by Thrasher magazine in a recent interview if he is offended at all by the CIA's use of METALLICA's music to torture prisoners, Hetfield said: "Ha! We've tortured people with it for a long time. A lot longer than the CIA."

He continued: "I've got nothing to say about that, really. I'm honored my country is using something to help us stay safe, if they are. But then again, once the music is out, I don't have control over that. Just like how someone's giving it away online. They're using it to do what they do.

So really he couldn't give a shit.

In the article you linked, it sounds like Metallica's PR people did the asking; the interview with Ulrich is pretty equivocal:

With the debate over the military and CIA's use of torture front and center in the news lately, Maddow also asked Ulrich how he felt about METALLICA's music being used to psychologically torture prisoners of war. "There is a lot of METALLICA music that's helping a lot of scared 18-, 19- and 20-year-old kids out there who are out on the front lines and who are doing a hell of a job on behalf of you and me and the rest of us," he said. "But obviously when you hear stories like the one you're telling, it all seems so bizarre and so strange that METALLICA's music, which generally sort of facilitates bringing people together, is used in these bizarre circumstances. It's certainly not something that we in any way advocate or condone."

So not going to advocate or condone the use of their music in torture.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

It is possible that James and his bandmates have different opinions about it. Hetfield has always come across as a bit dumb/rednecky(?) fwiw.

However the band as a whole did ask the US army to stop using their music.

[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

My metal head friend said that Metallica became a pop band when they released the black album.

[-] Skkorm@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Your metalhead friend was correct. I personally think that that "Metallica" died with Cliff Burton. No hate to Jason Newstead, but Cliff was the one in the band with musical integrity.

[-] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Justice was really important to me. It was the first album I ever loved at the age of eight. It introduced me to the rest of their catalogue and, of course, fell in love with Burton and bass guitar. Too bad they did Newstead dirty on that album. But Justice sparked some political consciousness in me. And musically, I think they stretched as far as they could. With Burton, it would have been farther, but still farther than those three had stretched before. The same is not true for the black album.

[-] Skkorm@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I agree completely. There are versions of Justice that can be found online where the bass is mixed back in, and I highly recommend them. Newstead put in work on that album.

[-] qpla@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Yeha I think they're called "And justice for Bass" or "And Justice for Jason"

[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

When the black album came out, Metallic instantly went from legit thrash band to top 40 hard rock and was on the radio all day everyday... and somehow they still are and it's baffling.

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

The meme was too young to remember ...And Justice for All?

[-] 1371113@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I’ve met people, REAL people, who think the black album is their first.

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago

Fair assumption to make that a early self-titled album would be the first one. I wouldn't know the order of their albums because I don't care enough

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 7 months ago

Engaged in crime I grasp my throat,

Enraged my mind starts to smoke,

Enforce a mental overload,

Angry again, angry again, angry YEOW!

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