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If you want communism, you can start a commune
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Yep. That's a real shit post
I haven't seen a true shitpost in a while. This one is great lol
If you want capitalism, you can start a capital.
If you want sexism, you can start a sex.
Go start a j.
Ah yes, the core definition of communism: a small farm offering a delusion of independence, which is run within a capitalist system.
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Did you just suggest selling the means of production to the bourgeoisie to fund a commune? I... what?
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Well that's 9 iq points I'm never getting back
Yes, I wish I'd ignored this thread altogether.
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overall, i rate this post lmao/10. I wish i thought it was a joke.
Remember, OP: you are not immune to propoganda
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If you want socialism, you start a social.
If you want capitalism, you start a capital.
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Giving you a real answer, there are many barriers stopping people from making communes in capitalist nations. There are problems with land and property ownership, financial integration with the capitalist system, taxes, and pressures from anti-communists.
Communist nations, as compared to small local communes, have the advantage when it comes to resource allocation, bureaucracy, and stability due to scale.
Basically, starting a small commune isn't really that practical when you're surrounded by capitalism on all sides, and isn't really what people mean when they talk about a communist society. You can't really have the labor distribution, property, or means of production structures Marxists talk about without a central government at the scale of a nation.
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OP, if there was a viable way of making communism work, some one would have done it already. And inb4 if external pressure and/or internal grinding makes your system collapse, then it does not work
The thing is, it can only ever work if it is chosen voluntarily by every participant, and it requires that everyone be committed to relentlessly work on themselves to root out their own selfishness.
Marx was right in the sense that humans are by nature selfish, but but he was wrong in thinking that selfishness could be abolished by force. What past experiments have shown is that if communism is violently imposed (i.e. via revolution), people will just find other ways to be selfish. For instance, if hoarding wealth is impossible, but everyone’s income is guaranteed no matter what, people will simply try to find ways to work as little as possible.
There IS an example for where communism DOES work BTW, and that’s functional, healthy families. Think about it: since children are naturally weaker than adults, parents do have to work harder in order to provide them with food and education, but as the parents grow older and weaker, the children become stronger and more capable, so they can provide for their parents in their old age. It really is from each according to their ability to each according to their needs.
I mean, that is kinda my stance.
On the other hand, I am always open to being proven wrong.
That's the thing, and it's by design: you can't begin to imagine anything different. Maybe this will help?
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I do wonder if a Communist country will just send me money...
Putting the shit on shitpost, in a very unique way. I wish this was sarcasm.
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