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[–] bestusername@aussie.zone 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

No and anyone claiming they can is lying, mentally unwell or both.

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or they're attempting to leverage a person's grief for financial gain.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which falls under 'lying' category.

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I agree, but I figured I'd draw particular attention to this lie on the off chance that op was about to give a charlatan a sum of money in a misguided attempt to assuage some grief.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So which piece of technology or piece of science did you use to absolutely prove that there is no afterlife?

[–] dandi8@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which did you use to prove there is? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem is there is no way to prove there is or isn't an after life. My point is that he's acting like it's already been proven.

[–] dandi8@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

If I tell you I'm your god and you should give me all your money or you won't go to heaven, you will rightly call me a liar, even though you can't really prove that I'm not.

You won't say "oh I guess there's no way to prove he's not god, so I'd better give him my money".

In science, the default stance on something existing is that it doesn't, unless there's solid proof, or at least a compelling scientific theory suggesting that it does.

[–] B0rax@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is not explicitly saying there is no afterlife, just that there is no way to communicate with a potential afterlife.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh. Good point. Guess I misread that

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Of course you can. But if you think they can reply, then you might have a problem.

I still talk to the mother of my children, more than 10 years after she passed. I tell her how they're doing, and I ask her questions I know she cannot answer. I am an atheist so I know that of course there is no way she can hear me, but it's not for her. It's just for me. I hear her voice in my head, guiding and advising me. Now that they are all adults and living their own lives, I don't talk to her as much as I used to, while they were younger.

[–] Lemvi 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there was a way, there'd be huge corporations offering it as a service.

[–] user224 2 points 1 year ago

Well, some are certainly trying with AI.

[–] DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can, but it'll be a pretty one-sided conversation

[–] Railison@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Look who’s the NPC now

[–] 42yeah@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just died yesterday, AMA. Turns out your mind gets uploaded to the fediverse automagically when you are browsing lemmy the moment you died.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

How is the relief of not having to witness the 2024 US presidential election

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

You can, and it can be liberating, but they won't talk back.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Sure, but don't expect them to reply at that point.

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like kind of a "you" question. Can you?

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 1 points 1 year ago

That's the fun of questions like this. Everyone will have a different answer.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. So can I, or so can any man: But when you talk to them, will they answer?

[–] alb_004@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So what is the practical use of ouija board?

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

For Milton Bradly to make money.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

It is a toy, it can be fun at parties.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It has no use to me; ask someone who has passed on, they might feel differently.

[–] Quintus@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I think it depends on what you are expecting out of the conversation. The chances are they will be excellent listeners. Buf that's about it unless something is wrong with them or you.

[–] scorpious@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Even while people are alive, a huge proportion of our full experience of them involves expectations, assumptions, recollection, expectation…in addition to direct interaction.

Post-life, we mist remove the direct interaction, but the rest remains. Talk away!

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, but they can't talk back.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I still talk to my dead dog sometimes. Mostly about whether or not she’d like the weather on a given day, how much she’d like our current dog, and how much I miss her.

I don’t expect replies. It’s for my own benefit more than anything.

[–] pavnilschanda@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

For what? In a literal, empirical sense, no, you can't. But there could be underlying motives that can be addressed through alternative means

[–] Sagar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

Strictly no. Deepfake alert!

[–] Today@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, but please don't talk to them on Facebook. About them is ok. To them is fucking weird and creepy!

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

In your dreams.